Re: FWIW - OT MESSAGE HEADERS

[mac davis]

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>>With the advent of the civilized, considerate, practice of marking "off >>topic" messages "OT" hereabouts (apparently an excellent practice, in most >>of our opinions), many have noted that replies to the original messages in a >>"Thread" so marked do not retain the all important "OT" designation. > >>Strictly FWIW ... YMMV > >Anyone filtering OT would not see your OT MESSAGE HEADERS post.

Hell, some of the bests post here are the OT ones, IMO.. Newsgroups, like real life, would be pretty boring if everyone stayed on topic..

Now if the spammers would all be so kind as to start their posts with "spam", I'd filter those out..

mac

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[Mark & Juanita]

Interesting. Does that mean that OE also filters out "Re:", or did the genii at Msoft hardcode that one out?

[Swingman]

"Mark & Juanita" wrote

No, "re: " is required in the Subject header under certain circumstances. (Note that the expression is precisely 4 characters, with the space)

See RFC 1036 Sec 2.1.4 and Sec 2.2.5 ... the latter will explain how/when "Re: " is used.

[mac davis]

Micro$oft has done many things both right and wrong, sometimes at the same time and in the same application, IMHO..

What they almost always do well is marketing.. Just use ME operating system as an example of how you can sell shit in a bag, if you market it enough..

How many of us, beginning with Dos, have been unpaid beta testers for M$? Can we get a show of hands? lol

mac

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[Swingman]

"mac davis" wrote

I once liked _most_ of what MSFT did, and still think that, in general, the ultimate impact they have had on "personal computing" since the DOS days is more on the plus side than the negative ... but not necessarily the way they _did_ it.

That said, MSFT, like most corporations these days, appears to be currently full of blithering idiots, .

On that same note (corporate/government ineptness) can someone who has qualified for Medicare longer than I tell why the hell a Medicare Card is just that much bigger than a credit card so that it can not possibly fit in a wallet?

Just wondering ...

[Robatoy]

So it won't fit in a standard card reader? So the 'system' HAS to buy the Siemens Hospital Installation Lobby's (aka SHIT) 'special' medical card reader for....ermmmmm $11,786.00?.... plus their software and proprietary cabling. Now as that cynical or skeptical?... I'm going with cynical.

[Swingman]

"Robatoy" wrote

LMAO ... I'm damn proud of my cynicism ... took beaucoup years of BS detection to gain the exalted status of cynical old fart.

[Lee Michaels]

"Swingman" wrote

Now, now swingman,

Doncha know that the proper term is CURMUDGEON?

[Lee Michaels]

"Swingman" wrote

Reminds me of a (paper) newsletter that was sent out to support some kinda special software that I needed to maintain. This was some odd size that could NOT be put into any file, folder or binder. It created absolute havoc because there was no way to store this much needed info. I raised hell about it. So did a lot of other folks.

After a month or two, they relented and whined that it would cost a litttle more to publish a standard sized newsletter that could actually be stored/used properly. A year or two later it came out that they got the idea from Microsoft. Why am I not surprised?

[Charlie Self]

Unfortunately, you can say that about almost all software producers, and about many hardware producers, too. The computer industry as a whole has gotten away with more screwing of buyers than any five other industries combined, except, maybe, car makers who have had about a half century more experience in screwing the consumer without Vaseline.

[Jack Stein]

I don't personally think MicroSoft has done much of anything right.

Marketing ain't hard when you have a giant monopoly on your hands, brought about by underhanded and illegal marketing techniques.

Or if you dominate the market through illegal marketing techniques rather than with a superior product.

I've run most MS OS's since DOS 2.0 and none of them were any good. File systems suck, memory protection sucks, the whole package sucked and

30 or so years later is not too much better. Gates has single handedly set computing back at least 30 years so far, and probably 100 years or more when it's all said and done.

Anyway, I reckon colons are OK in the subject line, and any newsreader that handles them as some sort of special character instead of simple text is wrong?

[Swingman]

"Jack Stein" wrote

"Reckon" what you will ... the fact remains that "OT:" is indeed removed by some mail/news clients from threaded replies. This fact is amply documented in countless threads hereabouts that are marked thusly, occasionally complained about or blamed on the poster of subsequent replies, AND, more to the point:

... a SOLUTION was provided!

As far as the rest of your post, give it up ... this is the 21st century and OS/2 is no longer in the running. :)

[Tom Veatch]

So, what you're saying is that if Bill Gates had never existed, the state of computing today, would be the same as what it will be ca.

2038?

Not sure I buy that.

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA

[FrozenNorth]

much ever changes.

[Tom Watson]

IMHO the single best thing that Gates & Co. did was make everyone speak the same language.

Anyone who remembers trying to pass business files back and forth before de facto standardization by msft doesn't miss those days even a little bit.

Please email me if you disagree and I will get back to you with an attachment - written in WordStar 1.

Regards, Tom.

Thos. J. Watson - Cabinetmaker

[Tom Veatch]

"Most operating systems for 64-bit architectures already use 64-bit integers in their time_t. The move to these architectures is already under way and many expect it to be complete before 2038. Using a (signed) 64-bit value introduces a new wraparound date in about 290 billion years, on Sunday, December 4, 292,277,026,596. This problem, however, is not widely regarded as a pressing issue."

That last sentence was written by a master of understatement.

I'm fairly sure the "2038 Bug" is not going to present me much of a problem and I know darned well I'm not going to worry about the one in

292277026596 c.e. (Would have been a bit ironic if that date had been Dec. 7, instead of Dec 4.)

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA

[charlie]

you sure? certain financial places have been running into this problem. seems that a 30 year mortgage obtained this year runs out in 2038....

[Swingman]

"charlie" wrote

Some 30 year financial instruments should have already been effected on Saturday, 19 Janurary, 2008.

[Tom Veatch]

Emphasis on the "me". Since 2038 will be the 95th anniversary of my birth and I don't recall any of my relatives ever hitting the 90 mark, I doubt I'll be around to be affected by it.

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA

[Tom Veatch]

That amortization schedule showing the last mortgage payment coming due 1 March, 1901 must have been quite a shock. Think they'd foreclose because of a payment 137 years in arrears?

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA