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Brought home a new laptop today with Windows 8 installed. First impression : they let a few nutjobs take over the design of this OS when the A-team wa s out to lunch. Nothing is intuitive. Simple things, like moving a file f rom one folder to another, require one to use Explorer. Even "my computer" no longer resides on the desktop. There are two interfaces -- the tiles v ersion and one that kinda mimics the familiar XP version. The former is loa ded with a lot of junk.
It's going to take me hours to get this machine set up -- hours that I coul d spend more enjoyably in the shop.
BTW, this is being written on my old machine, which needs to be returned to my employer come retirement date (May 3).
Larry
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On 3/8/2013 10:10 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:

they let a few nutjobs take over the design of this OS when the A-team was out to lunch. Nothing is intuitive. Simple things, like moving a file from one folder to another, require one to use Explorer. Even "my computer" no longer resides on the desktop. There are two interfaces -- the tiles version and one that kinda mimics the familiar XP version. The former is loaded with a lot of junk.

Download and install this, bring back the start menu and more, many ways to tweak it to your liking.
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On 3/8/2013 10:23 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:

Whoops, forgot the link, here it is:
http://www.classicshell.net/
Totally safe, using for a couple months now.
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:10:54 -0800, Gramp's shop wrote:

This sounds like a very good time to dump the windows OS and install Linux. A far better OS.
Paul
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On 3/8/2013 9:51 PM, PHT wrote:

Which is unfortunately far behind as a consumer product...
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On 03/08/2013 09:27 PM, Richard wrote:

What is your latest experience and with linux and what distribution are you basing this on?
As a "user" rather than a "consumer", I have had a very good experience with linux for the last 18 years.
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Doug Winterburn wrote:

Can you run SketchUp on it?

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Yes.
As chance would have it I installed Sketchup 8 (free version) just yesterday on my 64 bit laptop running Ubuntu 12.10. I can't say that I put it through all its paces as of yet but I've yet to find anything that is broken with it.
You do have to run it under Wine (a windows compatibility layer), so performance probably takes a hit, but its OK for my simple needs.
A tiny bit of Linux knowledge is needed (how to do things in a terminal window, for example) to install it.
For what it's worth, I was also successful in getting emachineshop to run as well as Google Earth.
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On 03/08/2013 10:19 PM, Bill wrote:

One way to have the best of both Windows and Linux is to install vmware player on windows and install linux as a virtual machine. This works well with the large amounts of RAM and drive space on newer machines and linux as a vm will perform almost as well as running natively. You can do the same in reverse by running linux natively with windows as a a vm.
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I use Opensuse. I have been using Suse for something like 20 years. I have have never had problems that I have seen about Windows. Linux does have a program that will run Windows programs.
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:10:54 -0800, Gramp's shop wrote:

This sounds like a very good time to dump the windows OS and install Linux. A far better OS. ==================================================================Here that all the time. Go Linux. Go Mac. Compatibility is a problem. Stick with Windows if you need to communicate with most of the world.
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On 3/9/2013 12:05 AM, CW wrote:

The good, the bad, and some ugly... http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/config-wine-main
I think it has come a long way, but still required considerable knowledge and patience to install and run.
Maybe some day?
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:05:23 -0800, CW wrote:

And on what do you base that? I have no problem with email, news groups, Web sites, Office documents, spreadsheets, databases, or presentations.
I could see your problem if you're mainly a CAD user. While several free CAD programs are available for Linux, none of them, IMNSHO, are as good as TurboCad. I drop into Windows XP for that. But if I wasn't so lazy, I'd install WINE (Windows emulator) and run TurboCad in Linux
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Not for everyone .... AAMOF, no longer even for one of the most famous famous Linux users, proponents, and programmers alive, Miguel de Icaza.
LMAO when I read this last week:
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html
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On 3/9/2013 7:29 AM, Swingman wrote:

Oh man! But yes, that's exactly how I feel about it too.
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Phooey on the new Gnome shell, Unity, and the other alleged "improvements" to linux desktops, too.
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On 03/09/2013 11:02 AM, Larry W wrote:

If you don't like those desktops, take a look through this:
<http://www.nixtutor.com/ubuntu/20-ubuntu-derivatives-you-should-know-about/
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Thanks, I've used XFCE in the past and I'm inclined to switch to Mint when support for lucid ends this year.
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On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:51:21 +0000, PHT wrote:

Windows 8 is aimed at the hand-held market, not the desktop. MS has apparently decided that's a dying market. Ubuntu, the most popular Linux distribution, has decided to go the same way. That may also include Mint and Kubuntu, which are Ubuntu derivatives, but I don't have that info.
I'm still running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (April 2010 Long Term Support) and will for a while. But I've already started looking for an alternative. I may even skip Linux entirely and go with BSD (Berkeley Unix) - or maybe back to Slackware which is what I started Linux with long ago.
It's also possible to run Ubuntu (or any other release) with one of many window managers, each of which has a different look and feel. But that may be more than a newbie is willing to handle.
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PHT wrote:

Right. Get a knock-off of a 40-year old operating system designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone company.
Linux commands less than TWO PERCENT (1.2%) of the desktop operating systems. The remainder of desktop users have chosen to vote with their wallet by choosing some version of Windows, Apple, or "Other." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
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