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Yup, but it would have to happen very subtly. All Canadian born citizens have considered that possibility at one time or another and I'm sure there are a number of catalysts (water, oil, etc) to cause exactly that to happen. However, despite the US being the world's only existing superpower, I wonder how well it would eventually fare if the rest of the world was arrayed against it.
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The rest of the world wouldn't care.
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Tradewise most countries would rebel. And even if forced to agree to commerce and despite worrying about the same thing happening to them, there would still be a lot of underground resistance and withholding of compliancy.
Militarily, most countries couldn't do very much when it comes to resistance. But even if military world domination was accomplished, regional US governors with troops to maintain the status quo would spread the US military extremely thin. It's just not a very realistic scenario for the USA to survive comfortably. That's the way I see it with my limited knowledge.
Yeah, yeah, I know. That should be extremely limited knowledge or maybe even complete lack of knowledge.
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Take a look at the scenarios proffered by IPCC, there's some humdingers there.
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snipped-for-privacy@teksavvy.com wrote:

Quite well. The United States Coast Guard is larger, in ships and manpower, that all of the rest of the world's navies. Combined.
I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.
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IMO, the big takeover to come will not be a military action, rather an economic one. What if a dictator in China suddenly declared "no exports to the US". They could take over Wal Mart and control a big chunk of the US economy.
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Take it over with what?
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You think so?
The US coast guard, the smallest of the five US armed services, lists itself at around 47,000 strong.
The Chinese navy alone has more personnel than that (250,000 and growing.) It has twice as many submarines as the US navy and predicted by some to outstrip the size of the US navy in total by 2015. Robert Gates has expressed concerns that the US is in danger of being outstripped by China as a naval force in the Pacific in the near future.
In 1803, Napoleon supposedly said "Let China Sleep, for when the Dragon awakes, she will shake the world." I believe we are going to find out he was right.
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diggerop wrote:

When Obama and his socialist buddies are done, it won't be a shake, barely a nudge....
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I sincerely hope you are right. Time, as always, will tell.
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HeyBub wrote:

The kind of number that idiot civilians like to throw around. Coast Guard ships have neither the speed nor the armament to deal with purpose-made warships. They can't run away, they can't close the range, and their weapons are outranged, so all they can do is sit there and take hits. And that's the ones that _have_ weapons. More than half of that number is buoy tenders and tugs and other classes that were never intended to get in a fight.
The Coast Guard is superb at what they do, but what they do is not fight wars.

Well, now, let's see, after those navies have wiped out New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia and Phoenix they're at your 20 million, and they still have over 1400 warheads to use up, that they can put _anywhere_ in the US.
Oh, and between them the British, German, and French navies have the Coast Guard nicely outnumbered, and that's just counting British, German, and French combatant warships against _everything_ that the Coast Guard has that's longer than 65 feet.
Really, you're coming across as a clueless jingoist here.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:28:19 -0500, "J. Clarke"

Still, gotta admire his patriotism and support of his country. Can't say the same things about Canada, except that we might be able to scare down a few local uprisings.
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J. Clarke wrote:

You're again correct. My apology and excuse were woefully insufficient. Obviously an act of contrition is demanded.
I will, therefore, sit in the corner for an hour and feel shame.
I hope that will prove sufficient to regain your esteem.
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Then you're opening the door to being attacked at some time in the future with those very weapons you helped them build. Not very likely. Tools that enable other countries to "visit" the USA in person I suspect would be considered serious taboo.
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J. Clarke wrote:

It wasn't in 1740. There's some confusion about the current situation.
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... flying so low they'll be barbequing chickens in the barnyard!
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LDosser wrote:

Ah, a well-rounded and literate contributor.
Nice to have you with us.
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After I answer to the Coca Cola company ...
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LDosser wrote:

(Why did the line "Bring me a shrubbery" come to mind?)
If we took Greenland first, we'd have 'em surrounded...
...sorta. :-))
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