I see that you are confused. It's a civil fine for FTA, same level as a FTA
and bench warrant for same in the courts. Which is issued prior to a
determination of guilt or innocence, though this would be a civil penalty
requiring proof before the fine. End your confusion with some thought.
I think the discussion had to do with a Texas law that posits a $500
fine, and doesn't mention telephone, at least not as presented
The phone concept might or might not work: it is close to impossible
to identify a voice on the telephone, for one thing, without some
fairly sophisticated gear.
Since the OP neglected to leave out the details and chose to reword in order
to stir up the shit, see the link and play the local news coverage of the
First of all, the parent is NOT forced into dropping what he is doing to
meet with the school about his child.
The parent will get to choose from 3 different periods of time to meet with
The parent WILL be able to call and cancel if he or she has a reasonable
reason to miss the agreed upon meeting time. Reasonable is defined as
something like a medical emergency.
The fine is imposed after the parent makes the meeting and does not show up.
It got crazy when someone decided a 500 buck fine was appropriate for
not making a meeting with a schoolteacher.
Or crazy changing the whole jest of the new law.
The fine is after making the appointment and not calling to cancel.
J 'st did.
Wonder how our crotchety civil libertarian views the Arkansas obesity
program? Think it's less about "constitution" and more about who's
proposing the invasion of privacy?
I was going to comment with tongue in cheek that some one would cry out that
it would be an invasion of freedom of expression if the state tried to
require the school kids to see the results of their poor eating habits and
lack of exercise.
Then I read the article and it seems to be endangered because of the poor
esteem that it may inflict. Never mind the shorter life span and poor
health will inflict in the long run.
I looked back and couldn't find anything about the fine coming after
an appointment is made. It's slightly less retarded then, but still
There has to be some assumption the parent is forced to make an
appointment, because otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever to fine
them for missing a voluntary meeting. Sure, it wastes some of the
teacher's time, but that's been going on for a long, long, long time
and will continue regardless of sanctions.
Do you fine someone who had a blow-out on the way to the appointment,
or simply got caught in traffic, or simply had a moment of
If you go to the link and "watch and listen" to all 3 or 4 minutes of the
report you will hear the comment that the fine is imosed after the parent
has committed to 1 of 3 meetings and then choosed for what ever reason to
not attend and not tell the school that they will not be there. In Texas we
consider that phone call "Common Curtisity".
Less retarded, well lets certainly not impose any type of system to benefit
out kids until it is perfect.
Yes the parent is probably required to attend 1 of 3 possible meeting dates
when their child is in danger of further problems or failing a class. The
fine can simply be avoided by providing a reasonable excuse and a telephone
call. What is so unreasonable about that?
Sure, it wastes some of the
Do you fine some one that lies and uses one of those excuses.
You can make up excuses all day long. Not every one was born yesterday.
Sometimes life just bites you in the butt. If a parent has never attended a
meeting previously, there is a better than good chance that the flat tire
did not really happen. If the parent has been involved and goes to meetings
I suspect that a missed meeting could be rescheduled.
Its not a law yet so thousands of scenarios can be played out.
Bottom line, the state is trying to get the parents to be responsible for
their kids actions. If any has a better way that would actually work better
and be effective, please step up and provide that the answer.
While I don't like government to be involved any more than the next person,
something has to be done and right or wrong you have to start some where.
| While I don't like government to be involved any more than the next
| person, something has to be done and right or wrong you have to
| start some where.
The end justifies the means?
DeSoto, Iowa USA
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