Yeah, and another thing is for sure also. If the parents start being fined,
99.9% of those excuses will start to disappear. The parents are going to have the opportunity to schedule the meeting.
Woah is me, is not an excuse as far as I am concerned.
He has a point, Leon. Sounds to me like that legislator's good intenti= ons went a bit awry.
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He has a point, Leon. Sounds to me like that legislator's good intentions went a bit awry.
He is assuming a PTA or PTO meeting for a crowd. The proposal is more for one on one.
While you can't legislate morals or good parenting, we do have a loooong history of punishing the bad of both ... just more of the same.
If one can take a long bus trip there's no problem. The nearest bus stop to any school around here is about 5 miles from the school. One has to walk both ways if one doesn't have a car.
So how does someone with no car and limited income get to a school that does not have a bus stop nearby?
Like what? When some bully punches your kid out and your kid is accused by the bully and his friends of starting the fight, how can anything you do prevent that?
If you can't pay the rent then you and your child get to live in a cardboard box on a heating grate, if you're tough enough to chase some other homeless person off the heating grate.
Sorry, but putting a roof over the kid's head is part of taking care of the kid and failing to do so is neglecting the kid.
If fining the parent means that he and the kid end up living in that box then how have you helped the kid?
No, the schools are not baby sitters, they are surrogate parents--that is what the doctrine of "in loco parentis" means.
Why do you consider it so important that the parent appear at a "school meeting"? Are you a teacher or something?
Personally I think that any teacher that can't handle the kids without parental meetings should be fir^Hned.
and put food
hospital or
Tell that to Social Services when they come to take your kids away because you got fired for taking time off to attend one of these meetings, and you can afford to feed them any more.
Len
If you are truely interested in you child's welfare and don't want a $500 fine you will find a way to get there. Plain and simple.
Come on THINK, the first thin that comes to mind is to ask for a freind or neighbor for a ride.
Were you one of those people that always needed some one else to solve your problems.
More importantly a one on one with teacher and or principal. I am not a teacher and believe that too many teachers are ineffective. If you fail to see the revelance you are probably one of those people that always points the finger.
Where do you live, Dream land? What public school will let a teacher actually discipline a child without fear of a law suite?
Parenting is more than multiplying. If you cannot afford or take care of kids don't have them.
How many people do you personally know that live in a box because of a $500 fine?
That is what liberals believe.
Has that happened to you? Don't make up a problem before it exists.
Nailshooter, you put that point a lot more eloquently than I did and with a lot more good humor.
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And unfortunately those that he aimed that at will wonder what just went flying way over their heads. What is it with all the people that want some one else to take responsibility for their kids?
| Only the Texas GOP could produce such a fucktard. | | Parents Who Skip School Meetings Could Be Fined | | AUSTIN, Texas -- Parents beware: Miss a meeting with your child's | teacher | and it could cost you a $500 fine and a criminal record. | | A Republican state lawmaker from Baytown has filed a bill that would | charge | parents of public school students with a misdemeanor and fine them | for playing hooky from a scheduled parent-teacher conference. | | Rep. Wayne Smith said Wednesday he wants to get parents involved in | their | child's education. | | "I think it helps the kids for the parents and teachers to | communicate. | That's all the intent was," Smith said.
Sounds as if the Texan educators are sufficiently technophobic that they daren't punch up a phone number when they have something to say to a parent. I'm glad that isn't so daunting to teachers everywhere.
Also sounds as if Rep. Smith hankers to appear important/powerful by criminalizing and (perhaps further) economically handicapping those who don't do what he thinks they should.
Since justice has to do with equity (hence the scales in Justice's hand - along with the sword), it would be interesting to hear Rep. Smith expound on the justice of his bill - and to establish that $500 is, in fact, a fair and reasonable valuation of the stood-up teacher's time. Perhaps that valuation could be used, in turn, to arrive at a new salary schedule for Texas teachers.
I'm not sure that I think much of that criminalization stuff, tho. But then, perhaps the Texans - or the Texas Legislature - feels that they really do need more citizens with criminal records. Presumably, a person with a criminal record is easier to intimidate and control...
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How.
And why would any of them have cars?
If nobody needs anybody to solve their problems then why does the teacher need the parent to solve her problems?
I see, you've made two attempt now to make this about me.
If that is what you see as the problem then you simply need to make it lawful for teachers to discipline children without fear of a lawsuit rather than fining parents for not kowtowing to teachers' demands that they appear in a certain place at a certain time.
But you are actually introducing Constitutional issues here. By what authority does a teacher have the power to order a parent to be in a certain place at a certain time? Teachers are not police or judges, they have no power to issue warrants. I suspect that the courts would toss any such law in short order.
While I agree with this in principle, it is beside the point.
I've never known anybody who had to pay a $500 fine for refusing to kiss a teacher's butt.
No, that is what the _law_ believes.
Leon, you simply are not in touch with reality. I'll wager that you have a high income and/or no kids.
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