I agree. I've never be remotely interest in the Conservatives, but the
'leaders' of the Liberals for the past several years have been lacking in
everything I'd consider necessary to be a leader of our country.
not of an adult. Your needs are legitimate - like 10s of millions
of other people. But they are not a get-out-of-jail-free card to
pillage your neighbors. A gentleman asks for help politely and
is grateful when it is given. A spoiled child demands what they
want and curses their benefactor. I'd say your predominant
isn't physical, it's moral.
Wow! You have turned your ugliness inside-out for all to see.
Do you kill children for not picking up their socks?
What deep-rooted hatred you live with, day after day.
I have been reading your commentaries for some time, and frankly I
have been amused by them.
This last little diatribe is not funny. It is deep-down ugly.
You'll be in my prayers, Tim, because somebody has to help you out of
that pit you're in.
Such a soiled black soul is sad to see.
I see that (once again) you have no meaningful counterpoint.
No. But I insist that they be responsible in cleaning up
after themselves. They don't get to say, "Because my socks
are dirty, it's Bobby's responsibility next door to pick them up."
Don't you think it's a tad condescending on your part to equate
the disabled with children? I equated the *behavior* of
"Gimme, gimme, gimme" of Upscale and his ilk as that of
a spoiled child - which it is. I would never stoop so low as you
and declare the disabled as children prima facia ... and you're
going to lecture me on manner .. astonishing.
I live with deep-rooted reason. I hate no one. I love a few.
I don't trust the masses or the government. I will be no one's
willing slave. I am happy to help those genuinely in need as I
You're attempt at amused condescension fails because in all that
time, you've yet to make a case for your defense of theft.
It is indeed ugly - because it is sadly so true. Need does not
constitute a moral claim on other people. You, Upscale, and the
rest of the defenders of theft can tapdance, play your personal
attack misdirection game, and generally behave noxiously, but it
does not change the aforementioned truth. Your need, no matter how
real, does not mean you suddenly haver permission to steal from
everyone around you. Worse still, you defend such theft on the
one hand, and then curse the very victims of your predation. So
along with stealing, you also are ungrateful with really bad manners.
Does your 'prayer' involve sacrificing helpless animals, I wonder ...
Tim Daneliuk email@example.com
[snipped more of Tim's demonic soul-less banter]
Discussing ANYthing with you impossible as you have no ability to see
anything through anyone else's eyes.
Tim's view is the only view. Period.
You are a very disturbed creature, Tim.
You can bend, twist, and flap in any direction you want, tossing up
straw-men by the truckload, but for you to accuse anybody of
misdirection is the best laugh I had all day.
Your arguments cannot follow a straight line. You have to keep taking
detours to your stock-piles of hurtful vitriol in order to feel like
you are making a case for yourself. Your venomous words are way more
disgusting than a simple 'fuck you' would ever be. You get all
offended by people using language THEIR way...yet you continue to
skewer people with YOUR vile disgusting language. Do you honestly
think you have advantage by not using curse words? Is that all you can
hide behind?.."oh nooooo Rob cussed at meeeeeee...MOMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
Grow the fuck up, asshole. And stop trying to baffle people with your
bullshit, straw-men and out-right lies.
There... that is English...now go whine somewhere else,
Now apologize to Upscale or I'll ride your ass like a new bride.
It is quite to the point. Upscale and his fellow travelers have
repeatedly defended a system that takes from some to give to others.
They've also consistently held that a person's genuine need - say,
for example, a physical disability - morally justifies such wealth
redistribution. Such redistributive schemes do indeed benefit some
people, but they always to so to the *detriment* of others, thereby
undermining one of their core freedoms - the freedom to dispose
of their legitimately acquired property as THEY see fit.
Go back and read the last year of just Upscale's foaming vitrol
alone. Filter out the neverending ad hominem stuff and the profanity -
which will leave about 5% of the text. What you see is a regular
and reoccurring defense of "If I need it, I'm (morally) entitled
to support my government taking it from other citizens."
I have said repeatedly that making use of a system you're forced
to participate in is no foul. But intentionally supporting such
a system of theft is a moral foul.
Again, I encourage you to go back and read some of the nonsense that
spews for from this individual. Beyond the personal vitriol, bad manners,
foul language, and lack of argumentative clarity, there is a clear
unceasing drumbeat of "I need it, so I'm entitled to it."
I agree. Demanding such a declaration would be bad and I was thus
not doing so. I was defining the word for someone that has among
the worst personal manners and disposition in these debates and apparently
is unacquainted with the concept of gentlemanly behavior.
I'd say you've not being paying attention. A physical disability is no
one's fault (ordinarily). A moral one is. I have been regularly
personally cursed for not supporting his thieving worldview. He
celebrates a kind of moral malignancy and I finally decided to call it
what it was. Notice that I attacked not the man as an individual, but
his bad *ideas* (because they are immoral), and defending such *is* a
moral "disability." I did not swear at him, tell him he was useless,
or otherwise impugn him as a person. I attacked an observable set of
ideas that he clings to and defends. He, by contrast, is unable to
express himself except in personal attack and profanity. This is
because his *ideas* are indefensible and he knows it. Go back and
reread just this thread and get back to be about who ought to be
apologizing to whom.
Tim Daneliuk firstname.lastname@example.org
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