NEW Woodworking web site

[rwnokes]

Hi, I just got my new woodworking web site up and running. Please check us out

[BDBConstruction]

from the hosting company (free site?). Just seemed like a lot of ads/ banners and thought I would ask.

Mark

[John]

over a minute to load so I didn't explore the rest of the site.

Site design rule #1: response to URL in 8 seconds, page complete in 30 seconds.

Even cheap hosting ($18/year) is much faster:

[BDBConstruction]

all the pages loaded fast for me, I went to several,it was the ads that got me but it may be a free site

[Ross Hebeisen]

do you sell central boiler classic? if so in what state? I'm a C.B. dealer. ross

[randyswoodshoop]

Thanks, guys, I will cut back on the ads....thats a good point, what else am I missing. What more to I need to put in place of the ads?

[mjmwallace]

point. PHOTOS, PHOTOS,and MORE PHOTOS. Size them accordingly and make them clear!

I'll have more later.

MJ

[Tanus]

Something that I always like, Randy, is consistent navigation. You have a boilerplate nav bar on the first page, and you use components of it throughout.

But when I design a site, I usually use the first page nav bar (vertical, horizontal) and leave it there on each page, unless I'm strapped for space. It gives the user more choices with fewer clicks.

Tanus

[BDBConstruction]

I am not super web design saavy but do you get paid for the ads?

I will be honest and say I didnt spend a ton of time on the site but when I went to the furniture section I thought I would see images of your work but only found plans in the page or two I went to. As another post said, it seemed like a lot of hops to get to a destination but I can see that happening when you want to get to a specific bit of content.

I will bop back over but my initial thing was the amount of ads and banners. I am not opposed to some ads (though I would rather see none) but when they get distracting its tough. If you are getting paid for them I can see where getting carried away would be easy. I personally have NEVER clicked on an ad embedded in a site, that said, I am sure they are everywhere (not just your site) because a lot of people do click on them.

Mark

[randyswoodshoop]

Fair enough, ad I said I will cut back on the adds and start to add pictures of my projects. I have also tried to input as many free plan links as I could find quality plans. As I build the site, I hope to put my own plans on here, And yes you get paid for ads on the site but not alot, but it does help to pay for the hosting sevices. Thanks for your input..Im always trying to improve.

[Paul Franklin]

aren't popups or the kind that expand over the content...I don't return to sites with those. Just curious: are you allowed to post those reprints of articles from Wood magazine? Aren't they copyrighted?

Paul F.

[Jerome Meekings]

that there is only one text size that works. this is then difficult for those who like or need larger type sizes.

As an example on the text is badly formatted is the same as . There is no need to format line length.

the HTML is badly broken to check you can use

is part of the report for that page

This page is not Valid (no Doctype found)! Result: Failed validation, 40 Errors

The following missing or conflicting information caused the validator to perform guesswork prior to validation. If the guess or fallback is incorrect, it may make validation results entirely incoherent. It is highly recommended to check these potential issues, and, if necessary, fix them and re-validate the document. No Character Encoding Found! Falling back to UTF-8.

None of the standards sources gave any information on the character encoding labeling for this document. Without encoding information it is impossible to reliably validate the document. As a fallback solution, the "UTF-8" encoding was used to read the content and attempt to perform the validation, but this is likely to fail for all non-trivial documents.

Read the FAQ entry on character encoding for more details and pointers on how to fix this problem with your document. Unable to Determine Parse Mode!

The validator can process documents either as XML (for document types such as XHTML, SVG, etc.) or SGML (for HTML 4.01 and prior versions). For this document, the information available was not sufficient to determine the parsing mode unambiguously, because: ? the MIME Media Type (text/html) can be used for XML or SGML document types ? No known Document Type could be detected ? No XML declaration (e.g ) could be found at the beginning of the document.

As a default, the validator is falling back to SGML mode. No DOCTYPE found! Attempting validation with HTML 4.01 Transitional.

The DOCTYPE Declaration was not recognized or is missing. This probably means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a default "fallback" Document Type Definition that closely resembles "HTML 4.01 Transitional", but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected this problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration.

Learn how to add a doctype to your document from our FAQ.

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Validation Output: 40 Errors Line 3, Column 0: no document type declaration; implying "".

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The checked page did not contain a document type ("DOCTYPE") declaration. The Validator has tried to validate with a fallback DTD, but this is quite likely to be incorrect and will generate a large number of incorrect error messages. It is highly recommended that you insert the proper DOCTYPE declaration in your document -- instructions for doing this are given above -- and it is necessary to have this declaration before the page can be declared to be valid. Line 21, Column 82: there is no attribute "TOPMARGIN". ?="#0000FF" vlink="#800080" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0">

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You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not support that attribute for this element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

This error may also result if the element itself is not supported in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error message for further information.

How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of this attribute. If you received this error when using the element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on valid flash. Line 21, Column 97: there is no attribute "LEFTMARGIN". ?k="#800080" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0">

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You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not support that attribute for this element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

This error may also result if the element itself is not supported in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error message for further information.

How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of this attribute. If you received this error when using the element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on valid flash. Line 30, Column 194: "SOFT" is not a member of a group specified for any attribute. ?t:14px;">All rights reserved. ?

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[Maxwell Lol]

I use firefox with ad blocker, and the part that says "please visit my blog" and "Randy's Woodshop Blog" has the text overlapping each other.

So I checked your web page on an HTML validator, using

it found 81 errors on the home page.

Don't take this harshly. I had a page with 200 errors the first time I tried it. It's a sobering experience. :-)

(looking at the source page)

I guess you can blame Yahoo's sitebuilder software. :-( I'm not sure the best way to fix it. I edit the raw HTML myself. But that may not be something you can do easily.