new website for wood craftpersons

[Michael Baglio]

That last may be the funniest single sentence I've read on this newsgroup. Maybe, ever.

I still think it's really a girl who draws little hearts over her "I"s when she writes in her diary. At least I hope so, 'cause the other option isn't pretty.

Michael

[ljr]

Okay.. first of all you can all stop this trying to tear me apart... Yes I did use FrontPage.. so what.. I have been using it since 98.. and I don't sit in a dark room doing this. I run another very successful site for listing catteries,, that is where people list the pedigree cats for sale.. I have had over 40,000 visitors to this site... Stupid me for trying to do the same here.. And I am not a woman I am a man 60 years of age.. who has retired from the Government and wished to continued doing something in life.. other than trying to tear people apart.. which it seems it the nature of this forum.. forgive me for being here.. had I known what some of you were like I would not have done so. I asked in the beginning for your kind attention to the site because I really appreciate some of the work I have seen by the craftsman here. I also offered a free listing to anyone who contacted me.. so no one did.. okay fine.. I also have a message board.. don't want to use it fine.. I also offer free association and club listing, don't want to use it, fine. But it is still available.. I will not post here ever again and you guys can wait for another poor sucker to tear apart which seems to be the nature of a lot of you.. The web stays up and improvements will be made. . oh yes my email address is [e-mail]

"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" >

[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:39:03 GMT, Michael Baglio brought forth from the murky depths:

So this guy fits Keeter's idea of the usual web designer, does he?

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[codepath]

Dude! Don't get your panties in a twist!

1. You never explained who you are or why you jumped from helping cat-freaks to woodworkers. Are you a woodworker? Are you interested in woodworking? We don't know because you never properly introduced yourself leaving us to guess as to your motivation. Your post said "Stupid me for trying to do the same here". But why are you trying to do the same here?

1. You went ahead and built it first without ever having posted here before to even ask if there was a market for your offering. Which, if there was, it has already been filled by any number of established, reputable sites.

2. You charge way too much for what we would be getting. Not to mention half the full rate for every single change over 3 within a one year time frame. A year is a very long time in the sales world. There are many more than 3 holidays within a year that may mean discount pricing changes.

1. Settle down, Beavis! I never said that you "were" a spammer, only that you "could" be. Fine, you're not one. You are a fine up-standing citizen who only wants to help out. Good for you.

2. You asked for opinions. Be careful what you ask for. If you had ever bothered to visit here before or at least read some of the posts in this (or any other group or forum for that matter) then you would have expected, or at least would not have been surprised, if the response was not all flowers and sunshine. Maybe that's how it is in rec.catfancy or whatever, but it ain't like that here (or any other woodworking forum I have ever seen). What is it lawyers say? "Don't ask a question unless your sure that you know what the answer is going to be." You should have done you due-diligence and homework as to what sort of response you could expect.

...and...

1. I think that, in light of all of this, you owe the folks here an apology for your generally poor attitude. You should have been more forthcoming and honest about just how you decided to come to our rescue. You have generalized some responses as a reflection on all who come here. Not fair to the vast majority who have not even posted to this thread.

Good day. I said Good Day, sir!

codepath

[Nova]

What do you mean "trying"?

-- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

[Mark & Juanita]

Dunno, why don't you post a scan of a page from *your* diary so we can all make an accurate assessment? ;-)

[Michael Baglio]

[entire whiney-post snipped]

Okay, you've had your say, now you can listen.

You barged in here unanounced hawking your website at $75 per. Bad-- really bad-- move. You are a _spammer._

You, (who claim to have been a "professional" web designer since '98), not only bludgeoned your way through the rec.ww faq, (which you and I both know you've _never_ bothered to read, but you pretty much broke _every_ rule of common usenet ettiquette, with the possible exception of calling O'Deen a hermaphroditic Nazi. Which he isn't, so good for you, 'cause he's _huge._

Damn. Where was I? Oh yeah...

You are a _SPAMMER._

Get it yet? If you don't, you've just _proved_ you're not what you claim, because _NO_ newsgroup not dedicated to same welcomes unsolicited commercial postings. And anyone with your vaaaaast experience would know that. Unless you maybe kinda don't reeely have that much vast experience.

So, either you didn't know, which means your clueless and not what you claim or you did know and don't farking care-- you just want to hawk your website. Either way, you're a liar.

Congrats. You've just promoted yourself from spammer to lying spammer. Pathetic-lying-spammer if you count the part about the "Oh poor me, I'm 60 and just trying to do whatever I can to help the poor woodworkers out there eke out a meager living and now the meanies on that newsgroup are telling me I'm not supposed to do that and they are hurting both of my feeeeeelings."

Quit while you're behind. Or don't. Just stop doing it here. And stop making us out to be the bad guys for calling you on your crap.

Michael Thank God it's Friday. Who's on this next week?

[Doug Miller]

ROTFLMAO!! You don't contribute here nearly often enough.

More like half-vast, wouldn't you say? :-)

-- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

[codepath]

[Begin parody; infomercial voice off]

Hello all,

I am a complete and total stranger on the Internet. I have never been here before, but considering that you are all wooddork--er--ahem--woodworkers, I figured that I "wood" come to your resque by offering you your very own World Wide Web page.

All you have to do is send me a wad of money (cash only please) to my post office box (in a plain brown envelope). In return, I promise that I will make a space for you on my broke-dick web site. You'll love the popup navigation system that I created. If at anytime within the next 10 years you need to update a picture or change a price, I'll only charge you and additional 90% of the original price. And, if you act now, for another 50 bucks I'll add a very annoying MIDI background song. Choose from "Axel's Theme" from the movie '48 Hours', "Whip It" by Devo, or anything by Air Supply. Of course, all text will be center justified, flashy-blinky. And don't forget the Punch Monkey. People Love that.

Sure it's buffugly to look at and half the links don't work and there is not a database within a 12 mile radius, but trust me folks. I am a perfessional web site builder.

Just see what I have done at

and It's so obvious why I chose woodworking as my next target--er--ahem--endeavor.

So what are you waiting for? Act now before the FTC, BBB, Dept. of Commerce and the State's Attorney General shuts me down! I--er--ahem--You won't be sorry!

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[Bridger]

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good one....