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I was unable to find either online. Can you give me a link?

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Utter nonsense. 10% per month, *maybe*, unless they're shorted (dendrites).

You're right about the rest.
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Why only 12V? Higher is generally heavier but if I had only one drill/driver it would be 16V (or whatever they claim the voltage is).
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On 6/12/2014 8:08 PM, snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote:

Might wanna reread what I writ.
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:09:56 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@wind.net wrote:

Thanks for all the advice. I looked at number of tools and finally bought a Porter Cable. Drill and battery carries a 3 year warranty.
The Ridig battery warranty sounded good but the drills locally were hard to find. The few at the big box stores were very pricey. Jim
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Well, aside from the fact that my Ni-cads still have usable life in them, the biggest advantage to Li-ion to me is their lesser weight for more power. I've got to admit, those Ni-cads powered tools of mine get pretty heavy awful quick.
I'm predicting ten years for equivalent powered batteries to be about the size of a thimble.
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*snip*

That raises a good point. Get a set with a Drill and Impact Driver. Not only is it convenient to have a drill bit in one and a driving bit in the other, but the impact driver is a really good way to drive screws.
A set of 1/4" hex to socket adapters is useful as well. If you're working with carriage bolts that are a little long, a deep well socket makes installing the nut a piece of cake.
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On 6/13/14, 4:31 AM, dadiOH wrote:

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I own an earlier model of that Bosch and it's a great tool.
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I certainly don't see a reason, just a statement.
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I have two of them. Two batteries were the same price as the driver and the impact driver, so I bought a second pair. This is a steal, though. For $100, you get two $80 batteries, the drill and a charger.
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:55:04 -0400, "Mike Marlow"

Crap! I read that ten times (both last night and this morning) and still read it as "stay away". Can't even blame it on the (lack of) coffee.
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:20:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow"

I thought it was something like that but I couldn't remember.
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On 6/13/14, 12:20 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:

Change subject line to "drill/drive[h]er"
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Nope. Never happen. It is physics, and chemistry. It has to do with the electrons in the shells that are available to change place and be used as electricity. Even if you get all of them to change place with 100% efficiency (which will also never happen) there is a limit to the amount of charge you can get from a battery.
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On 6/13/2014 6:56 PM, Morgans wrote:

A few here said about the same thing about the SawStop. It's just vaporware.....IIRC is what was said... LOL
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The guy I was working for had that line of tools. I loved them. The smaller battery is OK for running some screws in, but for heavy drilling or sawing, you want the 4000mAh pack, for length of run and higher pull of amps. Drilled 5/8th holes in 2x pressure treated, and ran portable skill saws and sawzalls all day long. Never had a lack of power. They also have a huge line of tools using the same system, all the way up to leaf blowers and weed eaters, to saws, jigsaws, sawzalls and impact drivers. That is a huge plus for me. Also have a charging station to charge a bunch of batteries at one time. You can't go wrong, IMHO. They truly are as tough as industrial/professional tools.
Now, would I take a Milwaukee line over these? You bet. Not anything else though, and not if I had to pay for it!
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On Friday, June 13, 2014 7:08:12 PM UTC-5, Morgans wrote:

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I understand. That's why my old Makita is going nowhere. I know what it w ill do, how hard it will work, and how dependable it is.
I had not looked at anything Ryobi in too many years to count as I thought of them as casual user tools, not anything to depend on. Again, if it hadn 't been for my electrician, I still would not have bothered to take a look. I wouldn't mind a light weight drill though, one that could run up a few s crews, drill a couple of holes as needed in routine small repairs. I don't always need to kill an ant with a sledge hammer.
And while the name of Milwaukee has come up, it might interest folks to kno w the drills are made in the same factory by the same folks that make Ridgi d. I found this out from the Milwaukee tool rep, confirmed it later with a nother Milwaukee tool rep, then had it confirmed by the tool specialist wor king for Home Depot.
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On 6/14/2014 6:10 AM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

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I saw a HD commercial on TV a couple of days ago where the guy was swamping and interchanging attachments and IIRC batteries between Ridgid and Ryobi. I suspect that Ryobi builds both.
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On Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:32:09 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:


Except that Ryobi doesn't build Ryobi. According to the Techtronics Indust ry of North America, the manufacture (quoting verbatim Jason Swanson, Direc tor of Communications)Milwaukee, Ryobi, AEG, Ridgid, Dirt Devil, Homelite, and many more. These names are badges for tools and TIN makes tools << to the specs >> of the name holder. They also make tools for Craftsman, and ot hers. Most of these names were bought by holding groups as investments wit h absolutely no concern wit the quality of the tools they produce.
A quick trio to some of the TIN websites and their affiliates will easily c onfirm this nasty arrangement. But this also applies to the holding groups that own Jet, Powermatic, and all the brands of hand tools scooped up by t he folks that bought Porter Cable, Bosch tools, etc. Although there are no doubt a few companies that make their own tools now, I don't know of any m ass produced tools.
I have no doubt that some of the accessories from Ryobi will fit Ridgid and the other way around. It makes sense; why not have interchangeability for accessories that provide service for infrequent use? Most professionals b uy only single use tools, but a homeowner may have occasional use for many operations that these lightweight accessories would be a perfect fit. I ha ve to say after looking at HD this morning I didn't see any interchangeable accessories for the respective hand drill lines.
I learn something every day. 40+ years ago when I started in the trades, n ames like Festool, AEG, Metabo, Bosch, Festo, Fein, etc. weren't available and weren't affordable if they were. King of the hill back then was Metabo as I think (not sure) they were the first well respected hand power tool c ompany from Europe to make a push into the US. Stuff only a young man coul d dream of. Then came the other brands on their heels.
I didn't know at the time that these companies would become chess pieces on the game of business with whole businesses bought and sold at will. I lov ed the romance of advertising that sold "old world tool making brought into the 21st century".
This thread got my interest up as to who owns who these days, and I was stu nned to find the giant conglomerate AEG had spun off their tool division. See if these look familiar:
http://www.aeg-powertools.eu/
It gets worse. I found that the much vaunted Festool group of tools is now owned by yet another holding company:
http://tts-company.lt/en/history
Soo... I guess I am saying that it all boils down to the contractors specs to the jobber/manufacturer to get the product they want their name on. The whole tool business these days is nothing more than an inbred bunch of acc ountants/investors/efficiency engineers that are working to maximize the do llar from manufacturing widgets.
All of that being said, I must say that in talking to the Ryobi rep and the Milwaukee rep at the same time on Contractor's Day at HD was enlightening. Both have sold tools for other companies and had been reps for years. Of the choices at the store, for a contractor like me both said they would buy Ridgid for hard use. Two reasons: First, some Milwaukee products will ou t perform some of the Ridgid products in extreme conditions, but the return /failure rate was about the same which makes sense at the guts are essentia lly the same. Second, the Ridgid brand has that great warranty that no one else offers, and both said that was impossible to beat.
Speaking of batteries, just a couple of years ago it was found that most ne w Li batteries were interchangeable between Ryobi and Ridgid. If that is t he case, that makes it even more attractive to me, a buy that might drop a tool off a 2nd story ladder or have it stolen. If the batteries interchang e, I will be gladly looking at this type of replacement should the tool its elf fail after the manufacturer's three year warranty from Ryobi.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIDGID-18-Volt-Fuego-Compact-Cordless-Drill-Console -Tool-Only-R86008-BRAND-NEW-/201106792983?pt=Drills&hash=item2ed2e62217
Robert
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On 6/14/2014 5:11 PM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

Amen, and AKA: "price point engineering".
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