I'm certainly not a pro, but I use Phillips, Robertson, and TORX/Star screws,
in about the same numbers (prefer TORX, if I can find them). Bits for all of
them are pretty common, even in the junk stores.
You don't change the technique, you change the DIRECTION. ;-)
Most all the air drills I have seen tend to be high RPM drills and are quite
loud. IIRC they use quite a bit of air also. You may be waiting as much
for the compressor to recharge as you would for the batteries to recharge.
I would go for a cordless impact driver, faster and more torque than a
Cheaper still, a corded variable speed drill, they don't give up and have
the required torque. A clutched variety would be ideal IMHO.
Despite what others have been saying I have recently bought an air
impact driver. Of course as with any tool you get the quality you pay
for. Although as far as I know there are few really cheep quality air
For me the advantages are clear
1) there are no batteries that will die if not used for a months and any
way in about 3 years.
2) Smaller than any battery impact driver.
3) The air hose is far more flexible and longer than any corded driver.
4) The service life is much longer than any electric powered drill.
5) Over haul when eventually needed is it is easy and fast
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My Bosch drill is at least 7 years old, still on the original batteries. They
no longer hold a charge as long as they did when they were new, but they're
not dead yet either by any means. It's just in the last year that they've
reached the point where I can deplete one battery in less time than it takes
to recharge the spare.
Agreed, that *is* nonsense. Electrical cords are *far* more flexible than any
air hose I've ever seen. As for length... Jerome, have you ever heard of an
Of course it it small however it is also low powered. Size for power air
wins every time.
nonsense? Not at all.
cables for a corded driver are almost never over 3M however since all my
air tools have a QR on the tool. Any length (in my case) up to 50M
without junctions is usable.
In your opinion.
If electric impact drivers were so good then tyre shops and garages
would use them.
With sanders exactly the same is true though they need a high airflow,
so few non professional workshops have the compressor power to use them
Which part of the word "eventually" did you miss?
by the time an air impact can use an overhaul it will have outlasted 2
or 3 equivelent electric impact drivers
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So you're saying that an air impact driver with a power level
appropriate to driving deck screws is necessarily too small to be
usable? Because that's what it sounds like.
Don't they have extension cords in your universe?
Tyre shops and garages have to remove stuck or rusted on fasteners, not
drive deck screws.
Try driving deck screws with one of the impact wrenches that a garage
uses and get back to us on how you make out.
By the time my electric impact driver wears out in the use I give it my
grandchildren will have inherited it.
You seem to have some kind of religious devotion to pneumatic tools.
If you can find a pneumatic tool purpose-designed for driving wood
screws please do provide a link to it.
Plus, that compressor is a lot more portable than those little battery
Not true. The new ones are pretty small.
Really? Do you use yours when it's full of air? I have a 100'
extension cord that is waaaaay easier to use than a 100' air hose under
pressure. Of course, we're talking extension cords/hoses, which are
needed for both.
Again, really? I have a 20 year old hammer drill that's still cranking
it out. It was even half submerged in water overnight.
I'll give you that. Some rings and seals and you're good as new.
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On May 22, 11:26 pm, email@example.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
We are getting away from what the original question is. I have not
seen an air drill with a clutch only because they wouldn't be of much
use. Air tools are specific in use not like electric which tries to
cover many uses. So hence why they don't have a clutch because there
are air impact drivers and air screwdrivers. I do agree that if air
powered was better that you would see many more contractors using them
The question you have to ask yourself, is "Am I going to use it after
the job is done?". If you don't have much other use for it beyond the
scope of the deck, I wouldn't go that route. Then think about
compressor capacity. Is your compressor capable of the scfm needed for
the drill? Since it would be in use for longer durations, you need a
compressor that is at least a 30 gallon or higher and able to deliver
at least 8-9 scfm at 90 psi. Then if your compressor is smaller, it
constantly has to play catch up and then it is running nonstop. It
would be about the same as if you left your table saw running the
entire time you were building the deck. Not very good on the electric
I myself would go the cordless impact driver way since you said it is
about 140 square feet. You said that your drill is about 7 years old.
I would look at a drill/impact driver kit and keep your old one for
the times you could use 2 drills. I doubt that you would find an
impact driver kit that you could use the batteries on your old drill.
I have an air drill, It is nice for drilling wood because of the low
torque and high rpm, but I would not try to drive screws with it.
On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:32:14 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller)
depending on location I happen to have some new in box metabo cordless
drill drivers and electric screw guns. 15.6V for 175.00 18V for200.00
and electric screw gun 125.00 plus shipping. this is about half price
for these tools. I found several at a good deal and am passing along
the savings to fellow woodworkers. They are NOT hot! leave a message
here if you are interested or e-mail me at fcpreston at nc dot rr dot
com. I do not sell tools for a living.... :-]
Thanks for the offer, skeez -- and BTW, coming from you, it never even
occurred to me to wonder if they were hot -- but I think I'll see how I get
along with the aging Bosch and the nearly-new Ryobi that I'm sure I can borrow
from my Dad; I forgot he had one. And I should have remembered that: I gave it
to him for Christmas.
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