Entirely watchable. Super 8 could not be projected on large screens, 35mm was the stock for that., Yet Elmo made a Super 8 projector that could compete in the smaller cinema multiplexes for quality. However none were projected as too much was invested in 35mm. Only film clubs used such projectors.
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Such wit.
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Special use where picture - and sound - quality didn't matter. Otherwise they'd have been used universally. Cheap stock and cheap equipment (apart from the Nagra). The suit's dream.
How did they synchronise the Nagra to the film?
Not quite the same as the vinyl/CD argument. It's very easy to show that vinyl degrades the master it's made from, but not so easy with CD - if at all.
16mm will beat the resolution needed for present analogue TV - when used as intended and projected - but it's not quite the same when put through the TV system.Unlike IMM, I don't pronounce on things I'm not sure about. But Super 16, shouldn't really look muddy or soft. Although it can't produce the same sort of fully saturated colours as electronic can.
35mm is the best choice for TV stuff, if you must use film - as proved by most of the US shows we get here - but rather too expensive for most UK progs.
You obviously don't understand the regs on 'broadcast quality' and the dispensations given for news type stuff.
Perhaps if you do a bit more searching you'll come across the answer?
Was it? You live and learn. Most films made for TV in the B&W days were made on 35mm, as the quality was better and the stock cost reasonable. Only when colour came along was the change made to 16mm - fighting and screaming - as the stock cost was just too high. But some ITV companies - who had an eye to US sales - still managed to afford it.
For a wildlife prog, where equipment size and weight might be more important than absolute quality, then I'm not surprised they used 16mm. If you think about it, the shooting ratio is likely to be poor, so stock costs also enter the equation.
Total bollocks. They use every trick in the book to improve it.
The main flaw in your argument is that every TV company in the land would dearly love to use amateurs using domestic equipment. To save money, don't you know. But every time they do it falls over miserably. How many home videos - or even 'pro' made wedding videos - have you seen that are even half decent technically?
Oh - your pros using PPPro gear again. Figures...
So Speilberg uses them? Is that in their website?
And rightly so. It costs a fortune for stock and the results are poor. And even more so if you want sound.
Yup. If you want s**te pictures they are great. Says it all, really.
Really? Care to include a quote to substantiate that?
16mm has been a mainstay of certain types of TV production since colour arrived.I'd love to know how a new camera can suddenly make up for the basic problems of a small image size? Is this like your belief that boilers can exceed 100% efficiency? Another re-writing the laws of physics?
Yup. Cost more important than quality. 'Twas ever thus.
But never, ever, used in the UK for other than news, etc.
I only wish you would. It's about time you started talking to real pros in the real world rather than just reading about it. Hopefully, you'd learn how to discriminate between truth and hype.
Oh, I don't.
If you want, I'll take you on a tour of the various broadcasting companies I work for and introduce you to those at the sharp end who specify and operate all the equipment currently in use. Not suits. Just those who have to make things work. Believe me, they look at all viable alternatives to reduce costs and maintain quality. The good guys, that is.
So you're finally admitting the definition is poor?
Says it all, really.
Suggestion. Get a life.
......the caberman has a change of stance.....from saying it never was never used......it is now only used in news..........he fails to realise that of powerful media unions, and the advances the price dropping of video, amongst others, like total ignorance.....were the reasons for no take up.....ah well caber do this to the mind.....
...he keeps at it....I had been around them before you knew what it was all about.....
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......I used a full Nagra with a Super 8 Beauleiu. The Beauleiu wasn't cheap, about the price of many 16mm cameras around......
......the know-it-all caberman now admits he knows sweet FA...brainache has set in...yes that is true....it was synched in the normal way, via synch socket on the camera.....It is a Pro camera for God's sake....this is what cabers do to you...sad but true......
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......the brainache is too much as he aimlessly babbles away.....
....of course it is. Super 8 film resoltion is higher than video.....these things many will know....he goes on.....
...of course total nonsense yet again......transferred by flying spot to Video it is superior.....as is Super 8.....yes it is....
....the cabers have fried the mans mind.....read this....
....I know you all fell about laughling....he goes on.....
........totally wrong again...the brainache is taking effect........35mm is used ease of transferring onto differing video formats....some are very poor,,,as is NTSC.....very simple...for PAL.....16mm will do as will Super
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....he spurts away......
.........clear the cabers have taken effect here.....he obviously doesn't know the regs himself.....sad but true......
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Surely use of the flying grot spanner for telecine went out with the ark? Don't they all use CCD line-array sensors these days, or maybe even whole-frame?
Probably do. Flying spot is used extensively. It was about the first with no optical transfer that really made the likes of Super 8 braodcastable.
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So now from being an up to date and viable alternative to video, it's a washed out system which was overtaken by better?
And it's *not* routinely used for news in the UK. Not ever. The idea of using a medium which needs processing before it can be shown for news is plain ridiculous.
As a disposable item as part of a news item where the camera was going to be trashed, who knows?
You must be *very* old, then. Which explains the senility. And the lack of any recent practical experience - your nurse won't allow it.
*You* used a 'full' Nagra - whatever that is - and a camera? Is there no end to your talents?
Now I know all about multi-tasking, but no one in their right mind would use two ancient ways of recording pictures and sound as a one man operation. Perhaps this is where your love of two combis comes from. You see double all the time...
I just knew it was too much to expect a technical answer from you.
How does it work? "Well, you plug it in" Prat.
Go and read some more - and preferably from books less than 30 years old.
*All* film used for initial capture on TV is transferred from negative to video for subsequent editing and post production. So PAL or NTSC doesn't enter into the equation apart from the final TX tape.
Yup. Along with 1" C Format and all these other things he's spouting on about. They were obsolescent 25 years ago.
None of the facilities I commonly work at even possess a telecine machine these days. You'd need a specialist facility, as all film is transferred to video for post production. And this is becoming the norm in the features world too.
All the films you see on TV now come from the distributors on tape - in the format and length you require. The cost of a colour print is so enormous it makes sense.
That was the norm 25 years ago, for Super 8 in news gathering. Processed immediately and direct onto video tape for editing. Not new at all.
You have been asking question to your mates because you didn't know....he said Super 8 and 16mm film formats were never broadcast, but after talking to his mates all of a sudden they are.....sad I know
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...that is not the tiny Nagra.
Got it in one...that is what you ise to take piccie with.....do some reading that will tell you...
No. I'm also brill at poetry.
That is why they invented "sound cameras" note the words....then ask your mates...
You can use two combi''s with a sound camera...ask your mates.....
You mean you didn't know? It's true he never. A set of contacts make a pulse for each film frame which is recorded on the tape. Then the film and sound can be matched up using the pulses for perfect lip synch.
He really doesn't know....now he'll have to ask his mates again.... It is best he just read what I wrote, so much easier.
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