Film - of any sort - hasn't been routinely used for news in this country for two decades and more.
It has the considerable disadvantage that it can't be sent immediately up a link back to the studio. It has to be processed. And 8mm film - even the striped variety - has the most applying sound that even an Arab war lord in the middle of a desert would be ashamed of.
But carry on digging.
Professional 8mm? You're having a laugh. But then you have no idea what a professional is.
Well, all it confirms is that you believe anything you see on a website. And anything labelled 'pro'. What a sad little wanker.
Watch my lips. They're not used for mainstream TV. And never will be.
If you disagree, I'll ask you once again to say which programmes are shot on this format? No? Well, for once in your life just shut up and leave things to those who really do know.
Come on Dave, we all know that programmes like The Bill are made on Super 8, how else do they get the camera into all those tight locations ?...
Just think of the savings that could be made, rather than spending
100,000 GBP plus per cameras unit they could spend 50 quid down the local flea market, perhaps Dr Drivel should write in and suggest it - well, everyone needs a laugh now and then, even producers ! :~)
One new executive did indeed think this - and had an episode shot on PD150s. It was rejected by the network on picture quality grounds - and that was after a vast amount of post production to try and sort it out. Including post syncing most of the sound. ;-)
Pray send me your CV of your career in broadcasting. Or any evidence of Super 8 being used for any broadcast use - other than amateur news clips many many years ago.
No? So there's a surprise.
Perhaps when you're old enough you should try for a career in broadcasting. I'd love to have you on my crew. Your feet wouldn't touch the ground...
......he now is into dinining colour.....have cabers affected him so much?....read on...
....yes he said black is white...yes he did....he storms on....
....On the good ship Plowman they all did sail ....he was the skipper to no avail ....he sent the crew atop the mast ....until he spouted to them at last ....I'll keele are ye, I will be jabers ....so cut the masts and make em into cabers
....because of cabers the ship did wreck ....I have my cabers said cap'n, so what the heck ... the breaking of law the police did pursue ....cap'n Plowman was dragged into public view ....the judge said you motley fool ....that's why he is the newsgroup tool
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TV News in the 1970s had an 8mm (Nizo?) and one of those dinky little Nagras with 1/8 inch tape and hand rewind. Yes, it was for use where a 16BL and Nagra 4 or E would have been a bit conspicuous.
That's the old version of the vinyl/CD argument. There's no doubt that 16mm film is capable of resolution far exceeding PAL requirements. I've lost count of the times people have told me this, and I've seen film shot, developed and displayed via projector that shows excellent resolution of test charts.
Yes, the Braun Nixo Professional with 25 fpm for direct film to PAL video. Beaulieu and a number of others, Nikon and the likes had 25 fpm too. You could get 13 minute silent only Super 8 film cartridges.
In the USA and far east Super 8 was used for local news gathering. It was very cheap at the time and gave broadcast quality piccies.
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Oh FFS you total moron, Super 8 has never been used in main stream broadcast, the only exception being news / CA were, as Dave says, there is no other footage available (the classic example being the Shooting of President Kennedy) or programmes that are based around old home movies - both are rare events.
Now, your 'friend' might have been talking about Hi8 *video* (also known by some as Super 8mm, it's method of signal handling / recording being related to the larger 1/2 inch tape format S-[uper] VHS), that format was AIUI used on the odd occasions when a very small camera was required but again it's use was very rare and used mainly within news / CA, it's use was short lived as small DV cameras came along (such as the Sony PD150).
Richard Attenbourgh did his 1950s wildlife TV series on 16mm, which in those days they called bootlace.
Many TV companies deliberately reduce the quality of "amateur" footage. A means of keeping a closed shop and a differential between them and amateurs. The fact was that amateur kit and film stock had caught up but they wouldn't accept it because some people took this kit on hols. No one took a shoulder mounted Arriflex on hols. Imagine if they turned up with a camera that your dad uses at Xmas? All image nothing else.
The most sophisticated film cameras ever made were Super 8 cameras like the Bauer, which you could do in-camera fades and dissolves. Microprocessor control even 25 years ago.
The Super 8 cameras led the way and the pro cameras adopted some of the features. For about 4 years Super 8 cameras became very sophisticated attempting top keep video at bay. That is why today you can buy some brilliant Super 8 kit that is over 20 years old and still like brand new. It wasn't used much as amateurs went over to video quite quickly. Tons of the stuff must still be in cupboards all over the world.
Serious film makers stuck to Super 8 and still do. Google the web and even today some serious films are made on Super 8, mainly films that require a grainy image. They are broadcastable.
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Quite possible, considering that they also use the Never The Same Color twice (NTSC) system in those parts of the world, picture quality has never been a strong point...
Anything that doesn't break the TX chain is 'broadcastable', it's another issue entirely if it's watchable by the time it's displayed on any thing from a 40 quid 14 inch Goodmans set to the latest 52 inch plasma.....
You really just don't know. Stop making things up.
The caber tosser didn't say that at all. He said it wasn't used at all. The idiot say 16mm is not broadcastable. The mans is a fool. In 1980 and ex SAS man, Nick something, took a 16mm Aaton camera into Afghanistan to film the fight with the Russians dressed as a local. The films on TV were pristine making full 1/2 to 1 hour shows. Later he said he wished he had had the Beaulieu Pro Super 8 camera after seeing the quality of the results. That camera only came out while he was in Afghanistan.
Super 8 was used in news, especially in small TV stations in the USA. That is why a number of professional Super 8 cameras were made, and 13 minute Super 8 cartridges were produced.
The Zapruder film is very broadcastable, it is very, very clear on TV habd does not look amateur despite being shot at 16 or 18 fpm, and made on 8mm not Super 8mm, which has 50% more film area. A Super 8 pro camera with an excellent lens and improved film stock gave excellent results, that were fully broadcastable and way up from 1963 8mm.
Stop making things up.
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