In times gone by you have claimed to be some form of 'heating engineer'. Some engineer that won't pay out the few quid for the correct tool, which is hardly expensive *and* quicker than any other method. So just some more proof that you don't actually have any practical experience whatsoever.
But then you didn't manage this with your hacksaw?
Er, "variety of tools" just means more than one, not "any kind of tool you feel like using including the one we recommend you don't use"
I thought you said you had already bought a pipe cutter but didn't have it with you ?
I think this thread and the original are frankly hilarious. Like probably everyone here you had a DIY job go wrong when you were trying to cut corners (by not fetching/buying the correct tool).
You used a tool that the manufacturers recommend you don't use and, when things went wrong, rather than think "Oops that'll teach me not to follow the instructions" and keep quiet about it, you not only posted an article complaining about the design of the pipe you were using, you later published the manufacturers instructions which clearly stated that you shouldn't have used the tool you did.
You now seem determined to prolong the agony by arguing with everybody on this newsgroup who has successfully used pushfit pipework.
Have you never heard of the phrase "When you're in a hole, stop digging" ?
Not experience of domestic. I have asked the type and make of fitting and you have not responded. I assume not the off-the-shelf domestic push in the shops.
As I say: "Take the advise of a knowledgeable pro or have problems,. Your choice."
No, oddly enough, if the manufacturer recommended using a pipe cutter and *not* using a hacksaw, I'd use a pipe cutter.
Given that in the example above you used a hacksaw and not a pipe cutter, I assume that in your reality things mean the opposite to what they do in the one I inhabit so I take that as a compliment :-)
Because I assumed that even you would realise that was a very silly question. Do you really think that I would have used only one, or even a fairly small number of makes, over a 20 year period?
That probably depends where you shop. For domestic and commercial water systems, I use John Guest fittings bought over the counter, because that is what my local plumbers' supplier stocks. They also make airline fittings and those are among the ones I have used on my airlines.
But they are subject to statutory safety checks and leaks in them both consume energy and cost money. As I stated before, on my systems at the monthly maintenance checks, with all outlets closed there is no measurable pressure drop over a one hour test period. That means they do not leak, despite containing a gas at several times the pressure of domestic water systems.
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