Need 50 slick-looking sheets of letterhead [OT]

[Huge]

I own a PDP11. It's still a dead machine.

[Amanda Angelika]

Not really I bought one some time ago and used it for printing digital photographs and artwork on both Durabrite and Kodak inkjet photopapers. The quality was amazing, no streaks or dots visible, full-on photo quality prints. I sold a number of my prints on eBay and other places for £10 each, so it actually cost me very little and I covered the costs of the cartridges :) There are loads of people selling artwork printed on such printers on eBay and making money out of these printers. The quality is awesome, way beyond litho printing you would have to see it to believe it.

But one thing I would say if you buy a nice printer never use cheap ink cartridges in it.

[Owain]

Word isn't consistent, even on the same PC. I've just changed from one laser printer to another and my A4 labels no longer fit A4.

Although OpenOffice.org will save to PDF without any (expensive) 3rd party add-ons.

Owain

[Owain]

Yes, fortunately warships run on XP...

Owain

[The Natural Philosopher]

But keeping it running costs £3000* a year *per desktop*

*actual figures from someone in a london bank IT department. Includes all software and NT style servers.

[Amanda Angelika]

Well lets face it software piracy exists because some things are actually worth having for nothing LOL

[Sharky]

Nah, they 'try' to run on NT

[Amanda Angelika]

Um isn't XP professional just NT6?

[Tim]

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote

At least the software you need is *available*, within those £3000!

[John Cartmell]

The schools/LEA survey gave considerably lower 'TCO' costs - but only covered those directly attributable to IT (not room/heating/ventilation/&c) but in every case the Windows systems cost more than RISC OS (not enough Mac systems for analysis) and in most cases Windows cost considerably more.

[Alex Buell]

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:00:52 GMT "Amanda Angelika" waved a wand and this message magically appeared:

No, XP is NT 5.1, Windows 2003 is NT 5.2 and Windows Vista is NT 6.

HTH.

[The Natural Philosopher]

No, that's not the cost of the software. Or the hardware. That's the

*cost of the IT department they need to keep it all running*. Sorry my post wasn't clear.

If you like it needs one snotty nosed kid with a ticket from microsnot for every ten machines. At £30,000 per annum.

[Tim]

"John Cartmell" wrote

Do funeral directors not dress the corpse in a nice new suit & tie, and place them in a nice new coffin?

[Tim]

"Huge" wrote

Touch a raw nerve?

[Tim]

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote

Then they need to: (A) Have an efficiency exercise (one IT support bod for every ten machines, indeed!); and (B) Stop overpaying those "snotty nosed kids"!

[John Cartmell]

My (retired funeral director) father-in-law insisted that he wanted to be buried in an orange box. ;-)

[Tim]

"John Cartmell" wrote

That's because they can *do* so much more.

You wouldn't pay as much for just a simple radio, as you would for a CD/tapeplayer/radio - would you?

[John Cartmell]

No it isn't. In the case in point they could do less of what was required.

If I wanted a simple radio and the combination was cheap because it was crap - possibly yes.

BTW When did you last have to upgrade your virus checker? ;-)

[Tim]

"John Cartmell" wrote

Ah, you think you're immune to viruses?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Well, this corpse appears to be still living otherwise you wouldn't be reading this.

Hope you're keeping your anti-virus progs up to date...

And BTW it would be nice to show you just how much better Pluto is as a newsreader/mail prog than OE 6.00. Of course almost anything is better than OE.