Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote on Mon, 02 May 2016 16:31:14 -0700:
We don't have cats or dogs, but I wonder why cat litter isn't just
compost. Certainly the refuse part of it is normal compost.
What's cat litter made out of anyway?
I suspect it would be perfect for compost.
We can compost cat litter here in Toronto, my wife and I do not buy the
clay based stuff anyway, we use a wood pellet, I have seen it sold as
cat letter, then saw essentially the same stuff sold for pellet stoves.
It works just as well and is much cheaper.
Mike Duffy wrote on Tue, 03 May 2016 10:00:27 -0400:
My only point was that poop is poop and poop is good fertilizer and who
cares if it has toxoplasmosis when it's fertilizer?
You care if babies eat the stuff, but in my back yard, there are no
Anyway, if I had cats (which I don't) and if I kept them inside (which
I would think is cruel for a cat) and if they therefore needed kitty
litter, I would feel happy to recycle that kitty litter by dumping
it in the compost heap along with everything else.
I guess, the end results of the question is that most people are far
more picky about what they put in the three locations:
1. Waste that is composted at the household
2. Waste that is put in the trash to go to a landfill
3. Waste that is recycled
I guess I'm just less picky than most of you and thankfully, since we
put almost everything in the blue buckets that comes from inside the
house, the trash collectors are apparently not that picky either.
Our prices seem on par with everyone elses for once/week pickup at
roughly a dollar a day.
Some years ago, there was a comedy. Might have
been a take off of Candid Camera. They put about
eight bins out of a guy's house, and then had a
comic instruct the home owner what goes into
which bin. The confusion and bewilderment was
really comical. I sense we have reached such a
point in society as a whole.
Stormin Mormon wrote on Mon, 02 May 2016 21:10:19 -0400:
My kid wanted me to help her win a free t-shirt at a local
earth day event, where I had to take a bin of trash and play
basketball, putting each item in the right bin.
Of course, I failed a few times, but eventually I won her the
I hope she appreciates it.
If she watches near zero television, and is
cell phone free... then she had a chance.
You didn't ask my advice. But spend a lot
of time with her. Express your love. And
read to her often from good books.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
complicated things that don't qualify as
e-waste, some food wastes that i would like to
compost, but Ma will not, plastics that don't
fit our recycler qualifications (like many others
our recycler will not take styrofoam or food
wrappers or many other wrappers).
as for many organic materials and yard wastes
that others throw out or use curb recycling here
i either put them through the worm bins or they
get buried in a garden. bones eventually get
broken down, or just bury them deep enough and
the worms and soil creatures will work at them
through time. in the older days you could crush
or grind the bones up for use in the gardens or
as chicken grit. food/veggie scraps all go to
the worm bins eventually (i might dry some first
because i don't want them sprouting and growing
we have some friends in the city who bring us
their leaves, wood ashes and whatever else they
want to get rid of that is an organic material.
this helps us a lot in our many gardens so we
give them stuff back in the form of jams or
produce and they can also reuse the leaf bags
several times before we also bury those in the
garden. cardboard layers work well as smothering
for weeds. plastic coated cardboards i recycle
at the curb, i don't want plastics in the gardens.
all paper stuffs are used as weed barriers or
are shredded and composted with the worms.
i've emptied my wastebasket in my room here
one or twice a year and often it it mostly fuzz
from frayed carpet samples that i use to slide
the worm buckets around on (instead of scraping
up the wood floor).
i do have e-waste to recycle from time to time
and batteries from gadgets.
most the trash going out here as trash is often
from projects Ma is working on with fabrics and
i don't want to end up with stuff not rotting so
i just let it all go. even if i know cottons or
other natural fibers will rot eventually, i don't
want to deal with sorting it out or trying to get
her to do it. once in a while i'll put an old
shirt in the ground to give added fill, but i seem
to keep finding threads that do not rot so i don't
like to do that much any more.
Every time you rinse out a food container that residue is going into
your septic or sewer system, which in my case with a septic system needs
to be pumped out and disposed of in a sanitary manner every few years.
In my case that is about $250 per honey wagon load.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 7:28:48 AM UTC-4, Steve Stone wrote:
And typically you need to use hot water and even soap to get
it clean. Mayonnaise is one of the worst. If it's bad enough,
I'll just toss it in with the garbage instead of wasting time
and energy to clean it. You have to wonder about the economics
and environmental impact of having to clean those hard to clean
things. I know people who clean even a can or jar until it's
spotless. If you go down to the township facility where they
accept stuff you bring in, they have a giant dumpster for the
recyclables and OMG, what a mess. It's obvious a lot of people
aren't cleaning up anything. But even when I tell people what
it looks like there, they still want to run the hot water to
make every bottle and can shiny.
About thirty years ago,when Reader Digest sent paper
based magazines, there was a comment clip sent in by
someone. The family had a picnc, and she was cleaning
up. Paper plates and plastic forks went right into
the trash, and then she was rinsing out the various
food containers for recycle. "Just look at me! I'm
washing my garbage and throwing out my plaes and
using hot water to clean recycling containers is a
waste of energy. and as water gets tougher for some
areas to come by they will also usually be much better
served by a larger facility doing the cleaning in bulk.
i rinse stuff out with cold water and some soap if
needed to break up the fats.
in a perfect world all containers would be recycled
and all manufactured products would get recycled.
there's only so much metal/petrochemicals to go around
and eventually they'll be gone. we'll probably be
mining old dumps at some point.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:26:52 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
I find that there's usually enough room in the dishwasher to
add the occasional mayo jar or whatever recyclable needs to
My recyclables are stored on my enclosed porch until I schlep
them out to the (detached) garage. I don't want a bunch of
smelly food waste sitting around on my porch, which is also
my laundry room.
trader_4 wrote on Tue, 03 May 2016 05:26:47 -0700:
The wife makes mayonaise from three ingredients:
1. An egg
2. A squeeze of lemon
She blends that in a way that takes skill (because I always end up
with a mess but she ends up with mayo) and it stays in the plastic
container until it is used up (usually it's about a cup of oil at
a time because you can't really make less and blend it successfully).
We just rinse it out in the dishwasher, and it seems to come clean.
Arthur Cresswell wrote on Tue, 03 May 2016 23:03:36 +0000:
Same by the way with the ketchup.
When we need ketchup (catsup?), the wife whips up a batch out of:
1. Tomato paste
3. Spices (interestingly enough, stuff that is used in pumpkin pies!)
When the catsup/ketchup is done, we put the plastic container in
the dishwasher. Where the catsup goes from there, I never see it.
It is a pain to have to rinse out the tomato paste cans.
They should make tomato paste cans like they make caulking guns.
Unless you are dumping a LOT of food down the drain (garbage disposal?), or
dumping things that shouldn't go down the drain, your septic is either
undersized or is not functioning correctly. Anaerobic bacteria should
normally break down the waste in your septic tank, so you should only end
up with a very small amount of undigestable sludge.
We are required to have our septic system inspected every three years, but
I haven't had to pump my septic tank since 1999. Even then it wasn't really
needed, they just pumped out of routine when the inspection program was
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