Candidly, if I have a quart of used oil, say from changing in lawn
mower, it goes into the trash. To get it to a recycle center or someone
that would take it would require an equivalent amount of gasoline for
the round trip.
My mother did not raise me to be a garbage man and I'm not going to
store trash so I have enough to take to recycle.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 9:09:14 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
IDK how it works where you are, but here in NJ many auto parts
stores accept used motor oil. I have a 5 gallon pail and
when it's full take it over when I'm going to be in the area.
No need for a special trip.
Basically same here but I no longer change oil in cars and lawn mower is
only once a year then maybe several years for snow thrower and generator
all of which require a quart or less. Rather than clutter garage with
container of oil, it gets trashed.
I recall when trash company delivered extra container for recycle asking
guy, "Where the fuck can I keep my cars with these two large containers
taking up garage space?"
If state had done it right, all this would not have been required.
Ferrous metals are easily removed from garbage for recycling at dump by
use of a magnet. Local dump was into recycling but needed extra funds
to do it but stopped when they could not get it. State forced recycling
with extra taxes but workers at dump still have to sort recycle. If
they had just funded recycle and let dump do all then homeowners would
not be involved and containers and extra recycling trucks would not have
No motorized devices here -- other than cars. I arrange to change the
oil just before the first weekend of a month and pour the waste oil into
the container from which the new oil came. Then, drop it off at the
local hazardous waste facility with any batteries (from UPS's) that
have died in the past month.
As our municipal water is all well sourced, I'm not keen on stuff finding
its way into the aquifer (for my generation -- or the ones 100 years hence)
Pound for pound, it probably costs your municipality more at the water
treatment plant than it would at a landfill.
Also, you may put more fat and oil into the drain than it can handle. (I.e.
the soap that normally ends up going down the pipe.)
Maybe so, but I've found in the past that since our garbage only gets
picked up once a week, putting food in the trash invites maggots and
roaches and stuff. I'm happy to let my taxes and garbage fees work at the
water treatment plant rather than the landfill.
Is there a problem with the lid on your gargabe container?
Some might say that you are using the taxes of others to subsidise your
disproportionate use of the operational capacity of the water treatment
In practice, it is more complicated, because in some places, the sewage
plant captures the methane produced, and are actually designed with garbage
disposals in mind. Also, less fuel is consumed carrying the waste to the
dump. If your community incinerates garbage it will incur an extra
environmental cost as well.
A lot depends on how expensive water is in your community, and how much
soap and hot water you use to prevent grease build-up.
All of the soap and water and electricity I use to heat the water and run
the garbage disposal (et al )I pay for. I also pay to have my garbage and
recyclables picked up and pay a storm water runoff fee. If that's what
you call using other peoples taxes we'll just have to agree to disagree.
And if you think a garbage can lid will keep out roaches and maggots
we'll have to agree to disagree again.
I'm curious what you pay.
We pay 33 dollars a month for the once-weekly trash pickup (which includes
two bins of blue, two bins of green and one bin of brown).
We pay 13 cents to 50 cents a kilowatt hour to pump water (depends on the
monthly amounts) and we don't pay sewage since we have septic.
I don't have a bill handy to break it all down but the total usually runs
between $65 & $70 per month. Just a few years ago it only ran about $30
per month. Before I retired I had a 6yd dumpster at my shop, and no trash
was ever picked up from home, just the recycled stuff. So, in that sense
I've paid it forward for many years!
We have garbage picked up every week, and recycling is picked up every two
weeks. Our bill averages around $20 a month (paid every two months).
We could probably switch to bi-weekly garbage pick up, but I've kept the
weekly garbage so I can set out my garage garbage when needed and not pay
the extra can fee. Setting out an extra can costs more than the difference
I normally take garage garbage to the dump myself, but they charge a $20
"tip fee" just for showing up (plus the weight of the garbage). So whenever
possible I cut things up into pieces small enough to fit inside our normal
garbage can. When the garage garbage can is full, I set that one out for
pickup and save the house garbage till the following week.
We pay by the bag for trash. Large bag is $2, small bag is $1
Recyclables are picked up free. There is a fee schedule for things like
furniture too, but all seem reasonable.
I take my trash to the dumpster at work, but if I had to pay it would
work out to about $12 a month.
In case some old lady here want to complain, we pay a fixed fee for
weekly pickup of the dumpster so my trash add nothing to the cost. I'm
not stealing. I've also given permission to a couple of others to use
Mike Duffy wrote on Mon, 02 May 2016 20:13:04 -0400:
That's a good point. Our trash bins are well made so the lid keeps
animals out. Some people bungee cord them, but very few do.
There is only one hole which is where an aluminum bar goes through
them around the middle (I think for the truck to latch onto), so they
could hold water if it weren't for that middle bar.
There is an old joke that some people can afford to waste other people's
We are on septic so sewage isn't a concern.
We are on a well, so the only cost for water is the electricity to pump
You have to remove the "latch" in order for the container to be dumped.
Here, folks just put a large stone on top -- which inevitably falls
off as the container is lifted above the truck, allowing the
top flap to open.
Water is actually a problem in waste containers. Most municipalities are
charged by weight (not volume). So, a container that collects and holds
rainwater ends up costing the municipality extra -- for some weight that
really isn't "stored" in the landfill.
OTOH, putting weep holes in the container allows stuff to get in (insects)
We pay for every gallon (CCF) we use -- *twice*: once for delivery/usage
charges and once again for its presumed return via the sewage system
(even if we "consume" the water on the premises -- e.g., irrigation)
Until your well runs dry. :> The NEXT gallon then becomes exceedingly
Or, until your groundwater supply is contaminated.
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 8:13:01 PM UTC-4, Mike Duffy wrote:
I can't speak for Mike Duffy, of course, but...
Flies seem to find a way in regardless. Our current container
is provided by the trash hauler (we have no choice; it's designed
to be picked up by the mechanical arm on the truck), and the lid
doesn't close very tightly. When we bought our own garbage cans,
flies still managed to get in to lay their eggs.
Luckily, it's only a problem in the summer here. Cold weather
kills the little devils.
Our trash costs 33 dollars a month, and is NOT subsidized by our taxes
as far as I know.
They pick up once a week and we're allowed two 60 gallon blue bins,
two 60 gallon green bins and one 25 gallon brown bin.
They say they make money on the recycling (blue) containers and on
the landscape (green) containers but they lose money on the trash
Congrats on not loading up landfills.
Not everyone takes recycling as far as you do. Some towns don't want
contaminated paper such as pizza boxes or saturated meat wrappers,
coated papers, anything with biological contamination. .
Some of the food you are composting is also good rodent bait. I prefer
to dispose of it than have animals finding it. Those Q-tips you are
putting in with the paper are not easily recycled, not to mention no one
want to pick off your earwax. How about razor blades? Do you separate
the metal blade from the plastic? I don't, I toss one a month.
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