OT: How Arizona does cell-phone towers

[HeyBub]

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[NotMe]

Parts of California and Hawaii use palm trees. In a few southern states it' pine trees. Los Vegas had a case where the cell carrier wanted to make a few extra nickels and rented space on one of it's location to for a bill board. Client put up a large neon sign which produced so much RF noise that the cell communications were blocked.

[DerbyDad03]

I saw a pine tree cell phone tower in Western NY.

It looked like a cell phone tower disguised as a pine tree.

[krw]

New England uses church steeples.

[krw]

Evidently it's not just New England.

[Kurt Ullman]

A couple of towers around here are these huge Flag polls, usually at American Legion or VFW posts.

[NotMe]

Kinda gives new meaning to the phease 'power of god' and 'gods messages'.

[krw]

...or "collection".

[RobertPatrick]

"NotMe" wrote in news:k22tti$77j$ [e-mail]:

One of our local churches has one as a big cross.

[krw]

Is there a reason to bother, otherwise? Perhaps they want to be first in line in case HE calls? ;-)

[David Kaye]

"Oren" wrote

Oh yes, of course they do.

[Dean Hoffman]

HE has built in wireless everything. Remember Bill Cosby's bit about Noah talking to God? "Noah, how long can you tread water"? YouTube. Audio only.

[krw]

Cosby was one of the best.

[PV]

Not Robert, but yes they pay a monthly lease to my Church as well as pay for any power used by the cell tower they built on our property.

[AaronL]

We have 2 palm tree cell towers in our RV parking lot. They look very little like real palm trees but guess they look better than regular cell antennas would. The HOA gets a substantial fee for them which helps reduce my HOA fee a (tiny) bit. Another benefit since they have been installed is that I now get a solid 4 bars anywhere around the area. I never used to since I'm some distance from the nearest large city. Why do they need towers here? I'm just under a mile from Interstate 10.

[krw]

AUIU, they pay a pretty good nickel for rights to put an antenna on your property. It varies by desirability, of course. No need to charge them an "access fee". They'll gladly pay a flat fee whether they need access or not. They're unlikely to show up on Sunday, either. ;-)

[PV]

Access rights not required as they do pay a good nickel for the 10'x15' plot of land they occupy. We took an upstart cell company to school when they approached us with a low ball offer and a one page contract. They are now locked in for 20 years with escalating rent and to pull out would cost them a bundle. Also held the contractor to match the architectural drawings approved by all parties, they tried to get lazy :)

[micky]

I took this to mean that it was one of several nearby churches, and there's no reason Robert would know details about the contract .

Dirving around on a beautiful Sunday, I came across a cell tower with an open fence with a name on it,. I drove in but when I saw a couple cars parked there, I decided I was trespassing and left. The two cell towers nearest to me never have anyone around, and they don't have a separate building either. . Looking it up on the web, it listed all the locations where the company ran cell towers. Can't find that now, but found these:

"This is due to the fact that most industry experts believe that only about 30-40% of the total number of remote cell tower locations have been constructed to date." (Since, like most web pages, no date is given anywhere, we have no idea what "to date" means.

"Unfortunately from our industry experience it is evident that carriers are extremely heavy handed when it comes to negotiating rent on their cell sites. They pay a heck of a lot of money to hire highly effective professionals to get them the best terms and rates possible, so from the start, most landlords are at a significant disadvantage in the negotiation. "

I don't konw. I'm a terrible negotator, so I don't do it much, but you don't need technical training or law school to start higher than you expects to get and come down to the market price for your location, etc. .

[micky]

I took this to mean that it was one of several nearby churches, and there's no reason Robert would know details about the contract .

Dirving around on a beautiful Sunday, I came across a cell tower with an open fence with a name on it,. I drove in but when I saw a couple cars parked there, I decided I was trespassing and left. The two cell towers nearest to me never have anyone around, and they don't have a separate building either. . Looking it up on the web, it listed all the locations where the company ran cell towers. Can't find that now, but found these:

"This is due to the fact that most industry experts believe that only about 30-40% of the total number of remote cell tower locations have been constructed to date." (Since, like most web pages, no date is given anywhere, we have no idea what "to date" means.

"Unfortunately from our industry experience it is evident that carriers are extremely heavy handed when it comes to negotiating rent on their cell sites. They pay a heck of a lot of money to hire highly effective professionals to get them the best terms and rates possible, so from the start, most landlords are at a significant disadvantage in the negotiation. "

I don't konw. I'm a terrible negotator, so I don't do it much, but you don't need technical training or law school to start higher than you expects to get and come down to the market price for your location, etc. .

[krw]

Or pay your neighbor.