HarborFreight - am I just unlucky?

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Doug Kanter wrote:

I'm having a problem with the "reporting". " executions are normally carried out within an hour

Which is it ? " an hour", " a few months", "only weeks"? With all that in the same paragraph I have to wonder about the accuracy of the so-called "report".
" normally" --- "Usually" --- "occasionally" seem to be very ambiguous in the context.
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Yeah...OK. Thanks for the brilliant insights, professor.
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Doug Kanter wrote:

When I read something that makes no sense at all I have to question what the intent is/was.
Are you implying that you just accept such garbage ?
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Nothing is absolute when it comes to news from China. Foreign reporters have "minders", whether they know it or not, and the citizens themselves may or may not be free to talk. You know all, right?
Because you DO know all this, how can you make an extreme statement and say that an entire article is fiction? Or, perhaps I'm wrong. Do you know nothing about China? Do you think it functions the same as Kansas?
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Doug Kanter wrote:

The "in-country" reporters may well have "minders", but the newspaper does not. The reporter submitted an article, but it's up to the Editor, Managing Director, or whomever to check for accuracy.
Any paper that cannot/will not correct obvious mistakes is worthless.
As to China I know as much as I need to. It's a Socialism government run by a Dictator. Those have been around for quite a while, and none have ever been good for the regular people.
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Good! Let's look a few details, then. The article says judges are untrained, and chosen by local party bosses to do their bidding. If you disagree with that, explain why.
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Doug Kanter wrote:

I don't disagree at all. That's how most "isms" work. The U.S. judges that "legislate from the bench" follow their Party Politics. Why they remain on the bench is a mystery, as they are JUDICIAL Branch, not LEGISLATIVE Branch of Government, whose job it is to make laws. Judicial Branch is supposed to see that the law is followed/obeyed in court. Judicial is doing their thing, which is not Constitutionally legal. That's the same Constitution they swear to faithfully uphold.
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Good! Now we've established that some of the article is accurate. We can now assume that all of it is accurate, since neither you nor I have any way of proving otherwise.
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 00:56:09 -0700, in alt.home.repair RE: Re:

No need to wonder about the accuracy. See the Copyright for the source. That explains all. If the New York Slimes Company spins it, it can't be right.
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OK. :-) I assume you realize two things:
1) Every good-sized newspaper in this country has had reporters who've been an embarrassment. But, you don't discount everything they print.
2) It's equally embarrassing when you make it obvious that you're repeating what Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage told you to say. That's such a stereotypical reaction at this point, slamming one news source because you were told to.
Think for yourself, and explain FACTUALLY why you have no faith in the entire news story. Not "duh...cause you can't trust that paper". Only a dummy believes that. You're not a dummy.
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 13:57:20 GMT, in alt.home.repair RE: Re: HarborFreight - am I just unlucky? "Doug Kanter"

Well, you are right about that. I was overly-broad.

Sorry, I don't watch or listen to either of them.

See 1) above.
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So, why the knee-jerk reaction about the NY Times? It's simply absurd.
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Vic Dura wrote:

They have been writing some interesting fiction lately, haven't they... ;-)
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 20:43:10 GMT, in alt.home.repair RE: Re: HarborFreight - am I just unlucky? "Doug Kanter"

Does this mean that you won't be buying any Chinese-made products in the future?
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The Hartford Courant recently had an article about labor in China. There are school aged girls living in dormitories at some places. The work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and expect to get paid $100 a YEAR. Some are considered apprentices and don't get any pay for the first few months. ==========================OUTSOURCING OF JOBS REACHES THE PRESIDENT
by Staff Reporter Melynda Jill
Washington DC - Congress today announced that the Office of President of the United States of America will be outsourced to overseas interests as of June 30th, the end of this fiscal year. he move is being made to save not only a significant portion of the President's $400K yearly salary, but also a record $521 Billion in deficit expenditures and related overhead.
"We believe this is a wise move financially. The cost savings should be significant," stated Congressman Thomas Reynolds (R-Wash). Reynolds, with the aid of the GAO (the General Accounting Office), has studied outsourcing of American jobs extensively. "We cannot expect to remain competitive on the world stage with the current level of cash outlay," Reynolds noted.
Preparations for the job move have been underway for some time. Sanji Gurvinder Singh of Indus Teleservices, Mumbai, India will be assuming the Office of President of the United States as of July 1. Mr. Singh was born in the United States while his parents were vacationing at Niagara Falls, thus making him eligible for the position. He will receive a salary of $320 (USD) a month but with no health coverage or other benefits. It is believed that Mr. Singh will be able to handle his job responsibilities without support staff. Due to the time difference between the US and India, he will be working primarily at night, when few offices of the US Government will be open.
"Working nights will allow me to keep my day job at the American Express call center," stated Mr. Singh in an exclusive interview.
"I am excited about this position. I always hoped I would be President someday."
A Congressional Spokesperson noted that while Mr. Singh may not be fully aware of all the issues involved in the office of President, this should not be a problem. Mr. Singh will rely upon a script tree that will enable him to respond effectively to most topics of concern. Using this tree, he can address common concerns without having to understand the underlying issues at all. "We know these scripting tools work," stated the Spokesperson. "Mr. Bush has used them successfully for years."
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It's a safe bet he'll have a better command of English than the current organism. No more "Hispanical" people. :)
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 19:26:04 GMT, in alt.home.repair RE: Re: HarborFreight - am I just unlucky? "Stormin Mormon"

That was outsourced to Saudi Arabia many years ago.
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Eleventeen beers to you, for being a seeker of the truth. :-)
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You can't expect "Quality Control" and "Harbor Freight" to be in the same sentence. Why do you think their tools are so cheap (price)? They skimp on the quality and quality control is non-existent. That being said, I do purchase a few things from them. Namely hand tools that I know will probably break but ones I use so infrequently, I can afford to not buy a long term product. Their power tools on the other hand, I won't touch. I've personally found anything to do with Chicago Electric to stay away from. I learned this after purchasing a drop light from them that burned out the second I plugged it in. Went through 3 of the damn things before one worked. Considering how complex a drop light is, I wouldn't trust them on a welder! Their pneumatics and Central Machinery has generally been ok for me. And their Pittsburgh hand tools have been ok. I am located near one of their stores however, so don't have to deal with the shipping fiasco's that you've experienced. Cheers, cc

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I pick up my tools at the local HF store. Never had a problem with packing or quality.
This whole issue boils down to the vast gulf between professionals who have to rely on quality tools to make their living vs. do-it-yourselfers who only occasionally need a specific tool and who are therefore not concerned with longevity.
I would still be using primitive hand tools if it were not for HF. Obviously, a lot of people agree with my approach because HF is doing a land-office business.
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