One other thing. New Mexico has lots of hummingbirds :)
I know moving is a difficult thing and the older you get the harder it gets
to move, but if you look at it as an adventure and keep your sense of humor
it could be fun. Albuquerque has several reservations around the area as
well as at least 1 air base, and a very nice historical district.
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:03:50 -0500, email@example.com (Pat
"Acts of creation are ordinarily reserved for gods and poets,
but humbler folk may circumvent this restriction if they know how.
To plant a pine, for example, one need be neither god nor poet;
one need only own a good shovel. By virtue of this curious loophole in the
any clodhopper may say: Let there be a tree--and there will be one"
Don't live in, but grew up in Albuq. Would love to go back. You might
try the Albuq. Tribune web site (http://www.abqtrib.com /) for a
snapshot of local life. The last time I looked at employment
opportunities there, the wages offered indicated a low cost of living
(or teachers would be starving in the streets!)
The climate is high desert (5,000 ft) with minimal rain and very
little humidity. Add Albuq. to your Wonderground.com 'favorites' and
check the weather. While it's hot in summer, temperatures cool 30
degrees at night, which makes it more than bearable. Plus, no humidity
means that perspiration does the job it's designed for and shade
*means* something. It snows occasionally in winter. The mountains are
gorgeous. The sky is bluer there than anywhere. Great Mexican food, as
you can imagine, but Albuq. is a big city, not a rustic backwater.
According to their site (www.unm.edu), the University of New Mexico
entertains close to 25,000 students. There's a lot of Hispanic/Indian
influence on architecture, language, and culture. Gardening will be
*very* different. I remember the main gardening chore being
*watering*. Everything that isn't sprinkled or irrigated dries up and
blows away. (See the film 'The Milagro Beanfield War', which is set
somewhat to the north, and shows a *lot* of that blue sky!)
Hi Mad - I'm in an area similar to yours (Central VA, zone 7). My
brother and cousin have both moved to Albuquerque recently, one for
school and the other for career reasons. They both liked it, were able
to find real estate cheaper than around here (but where isn't it cheaper
than Albemarle County!!!!), but they did find the landscape hard to get
used to. As you know, we have the Blue Ridge mountains and abundant
greenery, and it's a little dry and shrubby for their liking. But the
culture is great, the artists' communities are great, the skiing is
phenomenal, my cousin's kids love it, etc, etc etc. You will find it
quite different from Tennessee, though, so if you can't imagine living
On the other hand, it would be another reason for me to get my *ss in
gear and get down to Albuquerque for a visit. <g>
Callen in VA
awww honey. You're too sweet! So you live in the beautiful Blue Ridge
Mountain area. I love that section of the country too. Went thru it when
going up to DC to pick up Squire one year a few times and the drive thru the
"Ridge" was breath taking. The valleys that lay between those ridges was
inspiring to me........this is one of the hardest things I've had to decide
since having to come to terms with moving HERE believe it or not. Everyone
is supportative of whatever I decide. There are huge obstacles in the way,
of which selling this house is one......we're having serious problems with
the IRS again and I'm almost on the edge of sheer panic attacks regarding
THAT, and just leaving a place where I've more than put roots down is hard.
I finally got both my son's in the same area.........something that some
would question. I am a very family type person and when my youngest was in
Louisiana for those 7 years, and unable to visit like he wanted to and we
were denied visits by his wife to see our grand daughters, it was hard on me
then. I finally got him up here when he settled his marriage problems and
divorced. He's now back in Tennessee, we moved the oldest son back from
Iowa, and despite that he's currently living with us temporarily until he
gets on his feet, just having both my son's closer is a comfort to me.
Not to mention that I've settled here comfortably despite that I "garden on
a steep slope" and may never clear the woods adequately.
On the UP side. I have in pots all over the place and have had for years,
cactus and succulents that I've always adored. I have one Cereus cactus
that resides in a pot that it and the pot weigh close to 200 pounds. It
would finally be "home" were we to relocate, as the other prickly babies I
have would love as well. Leaving the massive amounts of plants would be
hard, but hardest of all would be having to leave the plants that I am
endeared to. The dragon lilies. (The blue Enigma might make it there, not
sure) The Frakartii asters I adore and love. The various assorted shrubs
that bloom for me, and my hellebores. If I were to make a list of things I
just COULDN'T leave behind it would have about 25 or 40 plants on the list,
within reason. But if Squire did apply for the job and got it, it would be
a no brainer.
Another pull at my heart is WNCW that I listen to 24-7. But it's online so
that wouldn't be a problem <g> my music is as much a part of me as my blood
I guess with this huge windfall blowing in, the crap with the IRS lately and
this morning, the possibility of the mortgage lender embezzling the $13,000
that was supposed to go to the IRS for the Offer in Compromise........well
that's enough for now. I have a huge plateful of problems that need
resolving. Thanks for your kindness and comforting words. I will keep you
abreast of the situation as it resolves itself.
madgardener up on the ridge, back in fairy holler, where the fall rains have
moved in and the air smells like damp leaves overlooking English Mountain in
Eastern Tennessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36
Since you know all about the four-year drought that finally broke in the
Mid-Atlantic region, I'll tell you a little story.
We had a friend who moved from Central Va. to Sante Fe last year. Not far
from Albuquerque, not sure of the distance. She moved from one bad drought
to an even worse one, according to her. Water restrictions and all.
Since you are the 'Madgardener', you might want to really consider that part
of the equation.
Whatever you decide, I wish you the best.
I have 13 cousins living there. Went there for conference and met them then came
back with my mother and DH to visit the cousins ... in July. Yes, it was hot.
they got enough water unlike Santa Fe.
I dont think I have ever seen a more beautiful campus than the U of NM. The
buildings and the landscaping.
Since they do have winter, I think almost anything you have could grow there.
key is having water features in adobe walled gardens. Ups the humidity. But I
want to live up in the Sandias if I had a choice.
Consider that it might not be forever either. I dont think I could move from
Milwaukee area. Mostly cause most of my family and friends are here.
I know you are considering Squire's feelings, but consider how happy he is going
be if you are really miserable. So make a deal for two years and if you cant
it, then maybe move back to the woodlands. Ingrid
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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.
It's a great place. Clean, nice weather, cool winters (apples and
tulips), summer monsoons. Ethnically diverse. Beautiful.
Buy the Sunset Western Garden Book and find out what the zones are,
because you may read the zone descriptions and decide you want to live
in a particular situation. Forget the USDA zones, because they're
worthless. I don't know how anyone can use them, to be honest.
Mary, Zones 11 and 13
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:08:11 GMT, "Pam - gardengal"
Really? I've never had a problem with the zone information. They're
a little conservative, I know, but some of that is the microclimate
problem. And plants aren't sold with USDA zone indicators either.
Minimum temperature is just not enough information. Even AHS says so
implicitly, with their additional zone system. If you use minimum
temperature, Palm Desert and, let's see, San Francisco, maybe, are in
the same zone, 30 degF. I don't think so.
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
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