Hubby wants to paint some ceilings with Kilz as they are yellowed from
smokers. Then he wants to paint over it with ceiling white paint. Is that
necessary or could the Kilz just be left as the ceiling paint?
Painting isn't my trade, but I've done a lot of it. My 2 cents:
Kilz is really good at sealing what it goes over, and it's a really good base
for the finish coat. Color might be acceptable - that's up to you. But It's
got a sort of open matte surface that paint sticks to. It's not got a lot of
"solids" in it - which is pigment. It's mostly got "binder" - which is like
glue or sealer.
I don't think it would hold up very well as a finish coat, although I've
never had it exposed for more than a week or so. I suspect it would hold
dust, dirt and odors, because it's designed to hold onto what's put over it.
For me, the thin pigment doesn't look right either. I generally do two coats
of Kilz, followed by two coats of finish. The first coat of Kilz always
takes some time, especially on new plaster or skim coat, but the others go on
I'd let Hubby do the finish coat, and then take him out for a nice dinner
(after he washed the paint off - Cupran Special is the best for that.)
Yeah, I'm a very cheap penny pincher. Compared to what's there with the
yellowed walls, it looks super bright white like ceiling white to me
actually. And I didn't know it had a porous surface that allowed stuff to
stick to it as it just seemed like very tough material, though maybe you're
right now that I looked at it a little closer. But then again to me ceiling
white seemed a bit chalky too.
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Your hubby is correct about using a stain blocker sealer & then paint.
I used to use Kilz but a friend turned me on to
Zinsser High Hide Cover Stain
this stuff is great!
Dries ready for top coat in 2 hours. Covers everything, no bleed thru.Prime
with this & one top coat is usually enough
replying to Edwin Pawlowski, Edy wrote:
Kilz is not a paint. It is a primer. You can print Kilz with a little paint that
you'll use to see where are you priming, and after the paint cover better. But
primer is not paint, yellowish in the future for sure. Because the odor tells
you that smell strongest that paint means different chemistry.
I used that in my bath remodel a few months ago. Going over old, unknown white paint with
white Behr "Paint & Primer In One", it only took 4 coats in most areas to look even, 5 coats in
some stubborn areas. And something made me think it wasn't sticking well.
40 years ago or so, a paint/primer was on the market and the word on the street was that it was
no good as paint, and no good as primer. I guess some things don't change.
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