not for doughnuts, to make cider :)
which, of course, Sunnycrest was making from scratch too. do
they sell unpasturized cider?
the place i usually get unpasturized cider (& drops) is up
for sale. it has good potential, but the current owners were
clueless Californians that bought the property, subdivided off
lots, built some yuppie houses, & played at the orchard
business. it's down to 20 acres, the trees haven't been
properly pruned in 4 years (since they bought it) & the house
has been redone to excess... the house, store & orchard are
for sale at $650k, which is pretty 'cheap' for the area (and
less than they paid, but it had a lot more land then), but the
taxes are over $11k/year (nice views & i suspect he doesn't
know about current use credits). it's a divorce situation.
apples didn't make the money they were accustomed to... & the
building business is bust here.
he's a nice guy. i could probably actually teach him how to
run a profitable orchard, but i suspect the other half wants a
house sale settlement.
if it was fixing stupid laws like not allowing the use of
drops in cider, i'd go along. that one piece of overreactive
legislation is destroying a lot of orchards... that & the
"view tax" <gag>
there is one distillery in NH that is allowed to buy & use
drops (he makes apple vodka), but they can't possibly save all
the orchards in the state (i think he gets drops from only
You can get Coca Cola made with sugar. Every year Coca Cola
makes up a batch of what they call "Kosher Coke" It is sold during
the week of Passover. This year I bought a couple dozen 2 liters
of the stuff. Unfortunately drunk it all within a month as it's so good.
Passover Coke is distinguished fram regular Coke by the yellow cap.
I don't know why HFCS is considered "non-kosher" but it is.
On 10/15/07 3:09 AM, in article newscache$iwzxpj$qz02$ firstname.lastname@example.org, "Ted
First, Lee, check out the "health food" section of the grocery store. There
are sodas that are made with sugar not HFCS. Making your own could be fun.
Ted, corn is a grain and such not allowed during Passover. The only grain
product allowed is matzoh.
It explains why things are and are not kosher for Passover.
most of the natural sodas we've tried have been mediocre to
awful :) Saranac makes pretty good soda, but the labels say
HFCS... however, the nice people at Saranac Brewery assured us
that they no longer are using HFCS, but haven't got the new
i have started brewing our own. we make beer, so we already
have all the 'stuff' to brew sodapop, and i got Tom a
kegerator for his birthday, so we can keg the pop instead of
having the exploding bottle issue ;) this week i'm making
ginger beer (good ginger beer is really hard to find, with or
i looked at the extracts for make-your-own-sodapop & they use
artificial sweeteners for some reason (since they have you add
6 cups of sugar...). i don't do artificial sweeteners. all of
the fake sugar substitues, including Splenda, taste really
nasty (it's a genetic thing).
Canadian Coke & some Mexican Coke is made with sugar. it'll
be interesting to see what happens with US produced sodapop as
the price of corn rises. at some point it may be more cost
effective to return to using sugar, despite the artificially
high price caused by trade agreements, if all the corn is
being wasted on ethanol production...
why is it the US quit producing sugar, yet still has import
restrictions/price setting structures?
That question has an interesting answer. You see, the price support on
sugar was never really a subsidy for sugar - there were always too few
sugar producers in the USA to matter. Its purpose was to make the price
of sugar so high that corn sweetener would be used instead. So, it is
actually a subsidy for corn, which has has quite a few supporters in
looooong ago. which is a pity, because the biomass from cane
is a *much* better source of energy than corn ever will be,
plus real sugar is not nearly the heath crisis that HFCS is
(HFCS shuts off the chemical receptors in your brain that let
you know you've had enough to eat. if you eat a lot of HFCS,
you always feel hungry, so overeat... usually junk with more
yeah, what Americans call sweet cider is fresh pressed apple
juice, unfiltered. the fermented cider is called hard cider.
American hard cider can be still or sparkling. if you add
honey or sugar when making hard cider, you get cyser, which
takes a long time to mellow, but is very nice after a year or
more, like an apple wine.
brewing leads one off in interesting directions...
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