P2R phillips bit -- what is it?

[Esther & Fester Bestertester]

Found these among my 1/4-inch driver bits. Tried to use them for #2 phillips screws and snapped off a couple.

What are these for?

Thanks, FBt

[willshak]

on 4/7/2008 10:45 AM Esther & Fester Bestertester said the following:

Phillips Pressure Treated wood screws. You probably got the bits in a box of the screws.

[Charlie Bress]

A Google search found this under Craftsman tools :P2R Phillips drywall bit

[Robert Allison]

That is supposedly a special drywall screw bit, but I use them for everything if I have them and I can't tell a whole lot of difference except that they are narrower than a standard #2 along the body of the bit.

[Esther & Fester Bestertester]

I too saw that in the Craftsman too set.

So what? It doesn't say what it is for.

Google is not always the answer.

[Glenn]

Bye, Steve. [g]

[SteveB]

What do we need a newsgroup for when we have Google? Every question that's ever been asked and every fact of life is in Google. I say we kill all newsgroups.

Steve

[aspasia]

Au contraire, let's kill Google, the leaky sieve, the human rights violator (remember the China tragedy?) and keep the newsgroups!

[SteveB]

WATCH OUT FOR THAT DOORKNOB!

[Glenn]

"Esther & Fester Bestertester" wrote in message news: [e-mail]...

I'm not sure what they are either. Back some time ago, before I retired, we had 2 shapes of Phillips #2. one was normal and the other was real narrow. I don't remember the number designation for the narrow one but I liked it because it sat deeper in the screw and I thought it held better. That's kinda what yours sounds like.

[Glenn]

You seem to have a problem but I have no idea what it is.

[SteveB]

If you would have Googled better, you would have found that some Phillips tips have serrations and are made of harder metal and metal of different metallurgy to resist chipping, stripping and schlipping.

But you knew that, right?

You know everything.

Steve

[Glenn]

Not too bright either, I take it. You were talking about not having newsgroups and I said bye to you seeing as you were the one complaining. You sounded like you were leaving. I'm not.

And yes, I do know quite a lot. As the saying goes, I've probably forgot more than a lot of you will ever know. [g]

[SteveB]

I'm confused. The other day you said goodbye, and now you are answering me.

I'm soooo confuuuuuuuuused.

Steve

[Mike O.]

I found a link that referred to them as "Phillips Reduced". Found about 800 hits on that phrase. Looks like a thinner version of Phillips. Not sure where you would use them, though.

Mike O.

[Roscoe P Pendoscoe]

You were not specific. Snapped off what, the screws or the bits?

If you snapped off either I would have to guess your torque setting is set too high for the strength of the screw. The bits typically are hardened. Should be set to stop when screw head has reached flush with the material you are attaching or just below if it's drywall.

Regards

Knowledge is like money, the less you talk about it the more people assume you have.

[mkirsch1]

What part about the word "drywall" do you not understand?

Yes, it is.

[Esther & Fester Bestertester]

Let me rephrase that...

When & why would you use a P2R bit rather than a regular P2 bit? Are drywall screws specifically meant to be driven with P2R bits? It seems that P2R bits are more broadly purposed than just for drywall...

Looking for more than Google gives on P2R... (although now that I know it stands for Reed-Prince, I do find more). But Googling "P2R" only says it's for drywall, which I find ... an incomplete answer.

So, no, Google is not always the answer.

[willshak]

on 4/8/2008 1:59 PM Esther & Fester Bestertester said the following:

If it works in a Phillips head screw, what the hell's the difference if it is a P2R bit or a #2 Phillips bit?. Just hold on to it until you get screws that it will only fit. All this crap because of a number on a bit.

[DanG]

The main company involved in replaceable screwdriver tips is Apex.

Apex is owned by Cooper industries.

Quotation from their site: Apex offers a choice of three heat treat hardness levels in many of our screwdriver bits to match the application. These heat treats are specified by a letter suffix as follows: X - Hardest heat treat in the industry I - Intermediate hardness R - Lowest hardness Our experienced staff can help in selecting the best heat treat for your particular application. Apex bits & sockets last ten longer than most of our competition.

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