Wire wheel arbor stand

One of the most valuable tools in my shop, is an arbor with a wire wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).
Currently, the arbor is mounted at the end of an old workbench and is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.
To save room, I need to get rid of this old workbench and remount the arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.
I am asking the group if they could please point me to pictures/images of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.
Thanks, Bill
PS, I actually have two arbors and would consider a set up where each could run with their own motor or share a single motor.
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On Thu, 3 May 2018 08:35:42 -0700 (PDT)

there are some nice dual purpose stand alones out there
the top flips so one top has a grinder and wire wheel and the other has fine and finer wheels for knives and gouges
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As I did long ago, mount the motor and grinder on a board, which is attached to the wall, at a convenient height.... outlet next to the tool, as well.
My grinder setup was just plugged into the adjacent outlet, i.e., no on-off switch. A small shelf below the wheels to rest any item being worked.
I think I use to have a pic of it.... I'll look for it. I had made a similar setup for my sister, never delivered (not sure why).... I think I have that setup in the shop. If so, I'll take pics, might mock mount it to the wall to show that aspect.
Same concept as this:
http://www.delorie.com/wood/abpw/121460-1.jpg
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On Thu, 03 May 2018 17:50:42 +0000, Spalted Walt

Yep - jury-rig one of these stands to suit your needs - - reinforce as necessary. The home-made grinder stands that I've seen at farm auctions tend to be very heavy-built - not sure why ? ... except that's what farmers do .. :-) I don't like the idea of a wall-mount set-up .. as someone suggested - not sure why - just seems wrong. I would think that moving it outside for certain jobs would be a good idea .. John T.
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If a larger platform is needed you might consider one of these:
https://www.harborfreight.com/universal-tool-stand-69805.html
https://www.harborfreight.com/29-inch-heavy-duty-tool-stand-95128.html
http://www.hfqpdb.com/coupons/25_percent_off_1524452740.9946.jpg
http://www.hfqpdb.com/coupons/20_percent_off_1505402191.9807.jpg
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On Thu, 03 May 2018 22:53:26 +0000, Spalted Walt

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Thanks for the responses to my post. I had considered the HF stands, but thought them too inefficient from a storage space point of view.
I am intrigued with the mounting that Sonny did, although I have to confess that I had to stare at it for a while before I understood what I was seeing. If I go this way, I'll hang the motor (hinged) down to give belt tension.
Thanks again.
On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

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On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-5, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

That wasn't my doing. The pic was posted on abpw and I just copied and pasted the link. I did make and use one, though, but not with a drill/motor drive. I can't find the one I made for my sister.
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On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:35:48 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

Have you considered this set-up?
https://cdn1.tmbi.com/TFH/Step-By-Step/display/FH01JUN_WSSTOR_09.jpg
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I haven't considered it before but I will now. A little more complex for me as the motor and arbor are separate, but they can be mounted on a common plate. I'd have to get creative with the belt tension. Perhaps a spring.
Thanks.
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On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:21:52 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

Bill, the way that you respond makes it difficult to figure out who you are responding to. I am seeing top-post responses to your original message, not bottom-posted responses to a specific post, which would include the text and name of person that you are responding to.
That said, I know that' you have a working system already, but have you considered a single motor, direct drive bench grinder with a wire wheel on one side and a grinder wheel on the other? That's what I have and it works great. It's also a lot more compact than what you are currently using. Being direct drive, it's very portable too. I actually keep mine under the workbench and pull it out when required. In nice weather I'll take it outside and let the mess go wherever it wants.
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On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am trying to explain this without pictures).

ven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

or/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems stra ight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this .

motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

ld run with their own motor or share a single motor.
DerbyDad03,
Sorry for my confusing response. I'm never sure whether to top post or bot tom post. I know it was important to some in this group, but whenever I th ink I have it straight, I go through several senior moments and forget.
Yes the single grinder motor with grind wheel and wire wheel makes sense. It is a lot more portable and space efficient. For me though, I have two o f these arbors and several motors I have collected over the years. I am ol d enough now to either use these motors or throw them out since I have more projects and ideas than time left in my life (or at least I think that's t rue).
Since I have two arbors, I thought I'd rig one up with one or two buffing w heels. I've never had that before and it could be handy.
Regarding my use of the wire wheel, over the many, many years I have had a shop, the wire wheel has brought life back to many rusted objects. Having it on the arbor (I believe) allows me to get the wire wheel into more corne rs, etc.that I could with the close-in mounting on the grinder motor.
Still, my fantasy is that the "perfect" set-up (as I imagine it) exists wit h someone in the REC and he or she will say: "Oh yeah, I mounted one years ago. Here's a pic."
All the suggestions people have posted are good (and appreciated). I think I probably didn't explain exactly what I was after.
My current thinking is to have the arbor out on a horizontal 2 x 4, with th e motor hung far beneath. That way I could get the wire wheel into nooks a nd crannies of good size objects (maximum access).
It occurs to me that readers may not know what I mean by an arbor. I found one on Google Images:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/millers-falls-grinder-buffer-arbor-b elt-driven
Thanks every one for your interest and patience with my posting.
Bill
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On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 7:10:01 PM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

l on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am tryin g to explain this without pictures).

riven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning of f rust, screw threads, etc.

rbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems st raight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing th is.

of motor/arbor setups like this that I can use for inspiration.

ould run with their own motor or share a single motor.

ottom post. I know it was important to some in this group, but whenever I think I have it straight, I go through several senior moments and forget.

It is a lot more portable and space efficient. For me though, I have two of these arbors and several motors I have collected over the years. I am old enough now to either use these motors or throw them out since I have mo re projects and ideas than time left in my life (or at least I think that's true).

wheels. I've never had that before and it could be handy.

a shop, the wire wheel has brought life back to many rusted objects. Havin g it on the arbor (I believe) allows me to get the wire wheel into more cor ners, etc.that I could with the close-in mounting on the grinder motor.

ith someone in the REC and he or she will say: "Oh yeah, I mounted one yea rs ago. Here's a pic."

nk I probably didn't explain exactly what I was after.

the motor hung far beneath. That way I could get the wire wheel into nooks and crannies of good size objects (maximum access).

nd one on Google Images:

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Bill,
Thank you for all that information. I understand that a "standalone" wire wheel allows for more access. I've run into the very problem you describe with my bench grinder set-up. Yours is definitely better in that regard.
As far as your posting style, it's not really about the top-posting vs. bottom-posting, although most here use bottom. The real issue is that I (we?) are not seeing the post that you are responding to. Every one of your posts (at least for me) looks like a response to your original May 3rd post. That is the only text that gets quoted in your responses.
For example, when you responded to my "Have you considered this set-up?" post, none of the text from *my* post (my question and the link) was included in the response, so there was no reference for "I haven't considered it before but I will now". Anyone coming along later would have trouble figuring out what "it" is. I don't know what method you use to access this group or what you do to respond, but as I said, all of your responses look as if you are responding to your own original post.
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On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 11:45:49 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:

eel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am try ing to explain this without pictures).

driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleaning off rust, screw threads, etc.

arbor/motor on a "stand alone" stand, as small as reasonable. This seems straight forward, but, I suspect there are many clever approaches to doing this.

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I see the problem. Of course what you say makes sense to me. My replies t o other posts make no sense if the quoted text isn't there. I use GoogleGr oups in Chrome and I was mistakenly responding by clicking the BIG RED "Pos t Reply" button on the top of the screen instead of using the little black arrow all the way over on the right.
I'm sorry for all the confusion. I get a lot of great info from this group .
Hopefully this response has your text quoted. Thanks for taking the time t o carefully and respectfully set me straight. I genuinely appreciate it.
Bill
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On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:26:16 AM UTC-4, Bill Leonhardt wrote:

wheel on one side and a coarse grind stone on the other. (sorry, but I am t rying to explain this without pictures).

is driven by an even older refrigerator motor. Extremely handy for cleanin g off rust, screw threads, etc.

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I glad you figured out the posting issue!
Good luck with the mounting project. I'm sure you'll figure that out also.
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