If you guys are having that much trouble with tearout while edge jointing, and as someone mentioned earlier, you guys need to "fix the tool" and hone those blades.
... and rough cut your stock _long_ while you're at it.
BTDT...gnarly grain on a jointer _will_ have some minor tearout -- going against the grain simply makes it worse...
Do that, too....won't help through the middle if a little chipout occurs...
As noted before, on straight-grained or easy stock, it isn't much of an issue. On other stock it can be a pita. I'd rather have the jointer fence set perpendicularly and joint w/ the grain as much as possible.
Among other things it just sounds better besides to hear the clean swish as opposed to the little breaky-splintery noises...
that, too...
I only wish that I had some helpful hints, but I've had terrible luck with wide stock warping.. *sigh*
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There are a number of ways to mitigate that problem, one being precisely the method you've been objecting to. ;)
I'd hope so. Why would anyone attempting flat panel glue-ups set the jointer fence any other way?
I gotta admit being surprised at you guys having such resistance to this simple procedure.
In actuality, the 'alternating faces against the jointer fence' method does not, in any way, preclude you from doing that at all.
The solution to what you have been perceiving as a problem with the method is to simply flip, end for end, the offending board in your panel layout during jointing, while maintaining the original intended face-to-fence orientation.
You really should give it a try sometime ... in panel glue-ups, attention to all these little details generally add up to a much flatter results.
Damn, damn, damn! .. you're gonna have to add the intended "If tearout is all you're worried about, the solution ..." and the :-J to the end of that post yourselves ... really! :)
... that'll teach me to multi-task at my age.
Gee, your're really serious here???? :)
I thought we was funnin' w/ "reasons why my preference is the one and only way..." :)
But, from a practical standpoint, if the fence is truly perpendicular, the benefit from the swap procedure is precisely _none_. If the fence isn't perpendicular but only close, then it's another variable to add to a potential problem during glue up of requiring keeping track of which face was jointed in the correct direction to make the error cancel.
Plus, I still contend that w/ stock that is prone to tearout (the maple I'm currently using mostly) it makes a lot more sense to joint it in the way preferential to grain direction.
Actually, I was thinking Shakespeare and Dali's "Persistance of Time"
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Make that "Persistance of Memory"
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Actually, I was making what turned out to a miserable attempt at "funnin'" ... I was trying to throw Professer Bozarth's best "stating the obvious" tone back at you with a tongue in cheek version of "if tearout is all you're worried about, turn the goddamn board around!!" ... but I got distracted and ...well, left out the pertinent bits.
What the hell ... that's what you get when these womenfolk keep kissing you on the cheek while reaching for your wallet.
Have a good Thanksgiving, Duane ... hope that freeze don't get you too bad.
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Well, it was 70 today...You have a goodun, too...
LOL.... It seems to be a tried and true method that works well with my wife.
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