Why does Gorilla glue suck?

It said to on the bottle?

The first joints I made were dry and they snapped clean too. (edge to edge) I haven't seen any wood damage in any of the failed joints. So much for "the joint is stronger than the wood". BTW my white glue experiment came out exactly the same. Is this just a hard maple problem?

"...for hardwoods like oak or maple lightly dampen both surfaces"

The first time (edge to edge joint) I wiped them with a damp rag. The joint I pictured was misted with a spray a bottle. Everything was cured overnight. The only things common are the wood itself and the glue. I have a dialog going with gorillaglue.com. Today I am going to glue up some other types of wood with this same glue.

I ask because I don't know. At this point I am wondering wheter the best answer might be to ignore the common wisdom of having well manicured surfaces and to scuff up the wood with a chipped tooth table saw blade where it mates. (and I just threw one of those away)

It is an end grain to side grain problem..the way you are trying to glue the joint. Try glues on the maple, side grain to side grain and you will find that is not a maple or glue problem.

Perhaps this is nothing new, but the joint has to be beyond perfect. Not a hair (real hair) width's crack anywhere. Lots of clamp pressure, too.

I have some failed side to side failures you can look at too. That was what started this. The "end grain" is in a mortise that is actually 3/8" deep" (I said 1/4 earlier). These are typical joints I see everywhere. I am about to shoot some stainless screws into these joints to save my $60 glue up. :-) So far the glue up is holding but the cut off pieces will easily fail

BTW this is Gorrila Glue's answer "From: snipped-for-privacy@gorillaglue.com (Judy Tracy) To: snipped-for-privacy@aol.com

As far as we know, that wasn't a bad lot, but other than sending you another bottle to try it again, I can't be of any more help. Most of the time the glue fails, it has to do with moisture. Judy

I certainly am getting all sides of this. :-) "It's too tight" "It's too loose" "Too wet" "Too dry"

I think I am just going back to good old yellow glue.

That's my favorite!

If it ain't broke..................

In article , snipped-for-privacy@dreamdynamics.nospam.com wrote: It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to 50 words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese. -- Carl Sagan

Remember that we're experimenting on the dolphins that were stupid enough to get caught.

-- David Steup

-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

another excellent addition to my saved quotes!

Who is David Steup though? I can't find anything on him.

david

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Why do so many people feel the need to add political or religious signatures to their posts? This could be a place where everyone can talk about woodworking, without someone else's baggage making them mad.

Just a thought.

you think he's bad, Google Mike Zuchick's posts. I refer to him as Mike Zealot. He hit up the Wreck a while back for donations for a burial. We all pretty much told him what he could do with his prosletizing and begging.

dave

Morgans wrote:

He isn't famous, at least not yet. I went to college with him. One of the smartest people I've ever known. Has an MS in pharmacy, PhD in toxicology, and I don't know what else.

-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

And that is a very nifty quote to use as your .sig. I'm gonna save it!

Also interesting to note that humans aren't caught in fishing nets deployed my the dolphins and served in casserole along tuna and cheese, nor subjugated by dolphins are taught to react to verbal signals. My dog knows about 12 words of English. Guide dogs for the blind often know German. So what?