Who Manufactures WHAT?

[Larry Blanchard]

If it's the same AEG I recall, they are (or were) also into computers. IIRC, they bought Modcomp, a realtime computer maker.

[evodawg]

Wondering if anything is made in the US anymore?

Porter Cable

Milwaukee

Bosch

Delta = Black and Decker

Dewalt

Thanks, Rich

[Greg G]

Delta, Dewalt, Porter-Cable, DeVilbiss, Oldham and FLEX are ALL now owned by Black and Decker.

Bosch is still Bosch - German. Milwaukee is still Milwaukee - American - for the time being...

Still Made in the USA? Lawyers, slimy politicians, bad MBA's, and bombs.

Greg G.

[Robatoy]

Well....no longer.

Techtronics bought Milwaukee from Atlas Copco in January 2005.

TTI's brands??

Ryobi Milwaukee HomeLite Regina Royal Dirt Devil AEG VAX DreBo

Sucks, huh?

The Milwaukee rep assures me that Milwaukee remains autonomous in R&D and manufacturing.. and *IF* collaborating with another TTI company, it would be more likely be with the AEG/professional German tool side than the Ryobi/consumer side. AEG is a very serious pro tool company along the same lines as Festool and Metabo.

[Lew Hodgett]

Milwaukee was recently sold by Atlas Copco to another holding company, but I forgot who.

At the time I found out, I wasn't impressed.

Lew

[Greg G]

I knew they were being looked over but didn't know they had sold.

OMG! Yet _Another_ BORG Chinese Tool Manufacturer...

Hey, you forgot the John Deere Green Machine trademark...

I think I'm gonna puke...

Greg G.

[Brian Elfert]

Doesn't TTI also make the Ridgid tools for Home Depot?

Brian Elfert

[ATP*]

with factories in the US, although they do not make it clear exactly which tools are produced in the US and Mexico. Skil, Dremel and Roto-Zip are now Bosch North American products, also Vermont American.

[Greg G]

That list is scary... And most of which are _not_ known for high quality tools... Except for the old Skil 77.

I laugh my ass off every time I see the current Dremel commercial that shows a guy planing a door with this little toy planer attachment. A bunch of little round divots down the edge of the door - Ugghh...

Greg G.

[Chris Friesen]

General isn't made in the US, but it is made in your neighbor to the north...

Chris

[Lew Hodgett]

My guess is the only reason S-B Tool (Bosch) bought Skil was to get their hands on the 77.

It took what, 5 years, for Bosch to redesign it?

Lew

[Andrew Barss]

:>Wondering if anything is made in the US anymore? :>

:>Porter Cable :>

:>Milwaukee :>

:>Bosch :>

:>Delta = Black and Decker :>

:>Dewalt :>

:>Thanks, :>Rich

: Delta, Dewalt, Porter-Cable, DeVilbiss, Oldham and FLEX are ALL now : owned by Black and Decker.

What about Sioux?

-- Andy Barss

[evodawg]

I wondered if I was the only one that saw this?? What a joke, I can't imagine the executives of Dremel approving this ad the advertisers came up with. The exec. must never have planed a door, because if they had they would have laughed the advertisering agency right out of the meeting.

What a bunch of PIN HEADS!

Rich

[evodawg]

My God, I should never have asked this question. I'm getting sick to my stomach as I type. What is the world of woodworking coming too?

Rich

[Greg G]

Try finding a dealer who stocks them... A month ago, I called more than 20 dealers in my area. Not ONE stocked a General 650 - but they had _plenty_ of Delta. Jet ran a distant second.

Perhaps it's different elsewhere, but if I can't find one in a city of

6 million, then where? (Stocking dealers, not mail order.)

Greg G.

[Lobby Dosser]

My local (Portland, OR) Woodcraft has started stocking them.

Might want to take a look at the General distributor page:

[Lobby Dosser]

Part of Snap-On, which still Appears to be Snap-On.

[Greg G]

competes with Unisaurs. They _claim_ they can't sell them.

Greg G.

[Lobby Dosser]

I'm not in the market for a saw, so didn't pay much attention to saws. I did look at a couple planers and a lathe. Can't imagine why they wouldn't sell, everything seemed like it could anchor the Queen Mary. Stuff just Looks solid.

[Ba r r y]

Lots of General stuff (not necessarily General International), is sold to a different clientele than the home shop guy.

The dealer I bought my 650 from (Tools Plus, Waterbury, CT) has two floors. The main floor is typical retail & contractors stuff, with some Jet, Delta, and GI iron sprinkled in. The downstairs stuff is limited to 6" and smaller jointers, benchtop tools, contractor saws, and _maybe_ some Jet and Delta cabinet saws.

The second floor, the floor most hobbyists don't know exist, is where the big, heavy, and cool stuff is. I shopped at TP for years without knowing there *was* a second floor, as the stairway is behind the counter. Upstairs, he's got massive table saws, wide belt sanders, 20" disc sanders, _BIG_ band saws, 8 bag DC's, etc... from Powermatic, General, and some industrial only brands. Upstairs, DJ-20's and G650's look *small*!

We also have some local tool dealers who don't usually advertise to the retail clientele. These guys will often deal with you, but they won't be located in the strip mall. Industrial tool dealers are often located in industrial parks, without retail window dressing, and sometimes with no means to accept credit cards. These guys will usually try to make an appointment with you, so that the proper salesperson will be there when you arrive. You can expect them to know every nut and bolt of the tools you're investigating, but you won't get a free router with your purchase. You'll get boutique treatment, possibly including setup, delivery, and after sale support... for a price. The second type of dealer is often listed on manufacturer webs sites,and in publications like "Woodshop News".

Barry