Walnut and Black Walnut Lumber?

After looking online at walnut for some projects tonight, I think I have a handle on the terminology. The true walnuts are all members of the Juglans family. The big three are European/English/Carpathian walnut; Black Walnut, which comes from eastern North America and Claro walnut, which comes from western North America. What you get if you get walnut without modifiers is almost certainly Black or Claro walnut. The European stuff is apparently very expensive and rather hard to get.

There is also Butternut, which is sometimes called 'white walnut'. It comes from North American and is light brown but has working properties almost identical to the various black walnuts, at least when it comes to carving.

Next on the list are the tropical walnuts, many of which are members of the Juglans family. They include Peruvain walnut and, I believe, African Walnut. They look pretty much like the North American walnuts, but I don't know anything about their working properties.

Finally, just to confuse things, there is New Guinea walnut and some other so-called walnuts which aren't walnut at all. They're not members of the Juglans family and at least in the case of New Guinea walnut, don't look anything like any walnut I've ever seen.

--RC

Sleep? Isn't that a totally inadequate substitute for caffine?

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JOAT notes:

I think he may mean the husk, which oozes a very dark brown color when it is opened. Great dye, but the way. Toss those husks in a bucket of some kind of solvent for a couple days, and you can dye anything. IIRC, it was used in earlier days to dye clothing.

The husk is a PITA to remove, in my opinion, but farmers around here with walnut trees sell the nuts in quart mason jars for a pretty darned good price.

My wife gets angry when she buys "walnuts" and discovers they're the English variety. She feels they have too little flavor. And she's right.

Charlie Self "Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing." Redd Foxx

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Charlie Self

I envy you the claro walnut. It's Juglans hindsii and black walnut is Juglans nigra. Bth are American walnuts, but the claro is found only in small areas in California.

Charlie Self "Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing." Redd Foxx

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Charlie Self

Inedible? Pishaw, you've not lead a good life until you have eaten a slice of "Pecan Pie" made with black walnuts instead of pecans.

If you by chance you mean you can't eat the meat because the shell is indestructible, you're still wrong, but it is an understandable error.

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John Keeney

Actually, the walnut that I have is from AR, so is not "claro". I am positive that I've heard claro referred to as "California Black Walnut", and the first link below tends to bear that out.

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one of the common names for "Juglans hindsii" is "Hinds Black Walnut"

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Swingman

Indeed ... note the work "black" in the common names:

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Swingman

OK, how is that bird house book coming Charlie?

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Leon

but a "Special" California Black Walnut. LOL

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Leon

Well, I don't know about "stand corrected" ... you, JOAT and Charlie (certainly Charlie would be much more knowledgable than I in these matters) are undoubtably correct about there being many different species of what some collectively call "black" walnut. The "black" might even be more regional than semantic.

I got into the species thing last year when I was trying to figure out if it was the "black" walnut that made so damn sick with a lung problem, as the problem coincided with a couple of walnut projects.

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Swingman

IIRC you can get Black Walnut juat about anywhere in the US. It may be however like the Live Oak. The Live Oak is found in numerous places and comes in a wide variety of species.

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Leon

There it was probably a component present in several species. The genus name Juglans gives a name to its herbicide - juglone.

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George

A friend of mins's son got the "dye" all over his hands and tried everything he could think of to take it off. Finally he succeeded - with Purify mouthwash!

None of us, nor anyone we've told the story to, ever used Purify again :-).

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Larry Blanchard

Ahhhh...JOAT you bring back fond memories. We gathered 15 to 20 paper grocery bags of black walnuts each year. layed them in the gravel drive and ran the truck over them a buch to loosen the outer hulls. Then got black hands (even through the gloves) picking out the nuts which were laid out to dry then packed into bags for later use. Hours were spent with a hammer and brick to get a quart of nuts. But damn it, mom's cookies and cakes were worth it!!!!! English walnuts absolutely suck in comparison and I can hardly eat them. Now, hickory niuts....there was a waste of time and effort ;)

Dave Hall

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David Hall

Mon, Nov 22, 2004, 9:26am (EST-1) snipped-for-privacy@nospam.com (Swingman) says: I got into the species thing last year when I was trying to figure out if it was the "black" walnut that made so damn sick with a lung problem, as the problem coincided with a couple of walnut projects.

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JOAT Measure twice, cut once, swear repeatedly.

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J T

Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 2:10am (EST+5) snipped-for-privacy@cs.com (David=A0Hall) insanely claims: Now, hickory niuts....there was a waste of time and effort ;)

Obviously, you've never had a hickory nut frosting cake.

JOAT Measure twice, cut once, swear repeatedly.

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J T

snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (J T) wrote in news:25959-41A37060-486@storefull-

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Thank you. Good information, as usual. I was curious as to how soon I could use the compost, into which I had mixed the walnut sawdust/chips.

Patriarch

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patriarch

Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 9:24pm (EST+5) patriarch (patriarch= snipped-for-privacy@nospam.comcastDOTnet) waves and says: Thank you. Good information, as usual. I was curious as to how soon I could use the compost, into which I had mixed the walnut sawdust/chips.

Remember, google is your friend. LMAO

JOAT Measure twice, cut once, swear repeatedly.

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J T

snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (J T) wrote in news:19342-41A3CC64-731@storefull-

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As a fellow of infinite curiousity yourself, you will likely realize that, if all of the threads of interest are followed, nothing of any consequence would ever get accomplished.

Wait. That's the current trend! Gotta go!

Patriarch

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patriarch

Naw, never managed to crack enough to make anything from :)

Dave Hall

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David Hall

Wed, Nov 24, 2004, 12:17am (EST+5) patriarch (patriarch= snipped-for-privacy@nospam.comcastDOTnet) says: As a fellow of infinite curiousity yourself, you will likely realize that, if all of the threads of interest are followed, nothing of any consequence would ever get accomplished.

No prob. Not many threads interesting enough lately to follow.

JOAT Measure twice, cut once, swear repeatedly.

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J T

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