On 11/11/10 12:28 PM, email@example.com wrote:
ehem..... Veterans' Day
in any case, I think most just leave out the apostrophe, altogether.
Irony aside, thank you to any woodworking veterans in this group.
You willingness to serve in my stead for my freedom is not something I
You have my utmost respect and gratitude.
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
Leave it to the Brits to screw up Remembrance day.
Disarming Remembrance Day
November 9, 2010: A hundred teenage members of the British Army Cadet Force
in Plymouth have been suddenly told that they would not be able to carry
rifles, as they traditionally have, during the annual November 11th
Remembrance Day parade. The reason given was that it was inappropriate to
have the teenage cadets carrying rifles in public because it glamorizes
weapons. The cadets disagreed, but the decision stood.
The Army Cadet Force began 160 years ago as an organization for boys who
were intent on eventually joining the militia (a local defense tradition
dating back over a thousand years). The Cadet Corps quickly became a
national organization and was supported by the British Army as a way to
introduce teenage boys to the military, and help recruiting. The Army Cadet
Force lost its government funding in the 1920s, but continued via donations
from individuals and local organizations. The Army Cadet Force was similar
to the Boy Scouts (also founded in Britain), but with a more military
orientation. This included the local cadets marching in Remembrance Day
parades, often with the rifles they had learned to use, and had practiced
drilling with. Girls were allowed to join the Army Cadet Force in the 1980s.
Currently, there are about 1,700 Army Cadet Force detachments, with 47,000
cadets and 8,500 adult staff and instructors. With the decline in the number
of veterans (conscription was abolished in the 1950s and the armed forces
has been shrinking ever since), more and more of the adult staff have had no
military experience. Thus the emphasis on military matters has declined, and
the Army Cadet Force was increasingly described by its leadership as a
youth, not military, organization. As a result of this, ten years ago, a new
rule was introduced that eliminated cadets carrying rifles during parades.
But the rule was not always enforced. This year, in Plymouth, it was. This
got some media attention, especially since the cadets had carried their
rifles in a parade two months ago. The sudden decision to enforce the "no
rifles" rule was attributed to complaints from members of the public. But
it's actually been a long term trend.
Remembrance Day commemorates the end of World War I, and has come to be an
event that honors all war dead. Remembrance Day events are held in Britain,
and most Allied countries who participated in World War I. In the U.S.,
November 11th is called Veterans Day, because Americans commemorate the war
dead on Memorial Day in May, an occasion that dates to the 19th century
custom of honoring the dead of the American Civil War (1861-5), and later
modified to cover the dead from all American wars. Thus the November 11
commemorations in Europe and the British Commonwealth, are a bigger deal
than they are in the United States.
From a Brit.
You really don't need to carry arms to remember those that fell in war, in
fact, there were millions in the UK who didn't. This isn't America where
carrying arms is almost mandatory and guns are worshipped as gods!
Let us do as we wish, as you do in your country - after all, that's what the
men who fought these wars died for.
You Brits have taken weapons phobia to new heights. You have brainwashed
chefs proclaiming there is no needs for cooking knives. We get media
reports on a semi regular basis that shows one more idiotic example of you
you are turning into a siisified nanny state. And there are many folks in
the US who are trying to do this here as well.
Is that what they fought and died for? To be a bunch of sissies?
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote in message
They had a lot of reasons for that. Some because they thought the war would
enable people to live in peace, some because they would get shot by their
own side if they didn't. I suppose there must have been some that just loved
flags and uniforms and guns and violence.
Generally in my country the war dead are remembered on this day with grief
and sadness as well as pride. It is not ever a celebration of how great our
military is. It is about loss and mourning.
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 06:50:06 -0800 (PST), David Paste
<blink, blink> Yeah, I read it and reread it to make sure I was
catching it--in context. What do you think I missed?
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.
-- J. K. Rowling
Well, your reply seems to be railing against what I wrote as if I
wrote something inflammatory about you or your country. I didn't. I
have no axe to grind, merely suggesting reasons for the differences.
You even called me a booby! I don't even have blue feet!
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