Leon, you gave me info on how to get the parts printed once b4, I lost
them , how do I explode the parts in 2d mode so I can work on them.
I have a problem with my model here.
I have drilled a hole through the side, in Xray mode it looks correct,
but in 3d solid it does not. I did it the same way I did the top drill
through, so what is going on here.
See image: http://imgur.com/cEVTMC5
It would be easier to provide a definite answer if we had the model
instead of pictures.
Are the side pieces components? If so then the 'hole' may not be part
of the component. Instead it may be a cylinder which intersects the side
piece but is not part of the side piece component.
Can you be more specific? Are you talking about printing to scale?
>>how do I explode the parts in 2d mode so I can work on them.
If the "parts" are components and you want to explode them to make them
noncomponents, simply select, right click and select explode. Once
exploded you will have to make the pieces in to a component again if you
want them to be component.
You can edit a component by left triple clicking the component. Or
select the component and right click and choose edit component.
I assume you attempted to drill the holes through the outer and inner
pieces. You will have to edit both separately.
One more thought, if there is no easy way to explode the whole model for
Is there a way in the model to duplicate all the parts in another layer
or sub model or whatever so I just duplicate the parts in this model for
printing them? and can control which layer I am showing?
If all the parts are components you can just open the component window and
stick them into your drawing as individual units. You can then select them
and put them on a different layer or you could first hide everything, make
your layer and then stick them into that layer via the component window. If
they aren't components you are SOL, they are all stuck together.
I'm still not quite understanding exactly what you are trying to
accomplish here. Printing all of the parts is not hard at all.
Printing all of the parts large enough to see is another issue.
And Printing to scale 2D is done in a specific way.
Resizing the Sketchup window also helps when printing and you want
something specific to fill the page. Have that object also fill the
When I want to print a specific detail or portion of the drawing I often
simply select that section, copy/CTRL C, open a new blank Sketchup
drawing and past. Then all of the other parts do not come into play
This for me is simpler and faster than assigning to other layers.
One other thing here, you keep mentioning "explode". Sketchup defines
"explode" as a function that makes a component a non component or a
group a non group. It does not move parts/lines away from each other if
that is what you are referring to.
If you are wanting to automatically move the assembled parts/components
away from each other so that they are seperated, there is a plug in that
will do that. I find the plug in finicky and more trouble to deal with.
Alternatively there is a plug in that will make everything disappear in
the drawing except the selected component. This is a temporary action
and is reversed by running the plug in again. That is known as the
Isolate/Reveal plug in.
In case anyone is interested, the Festool Owners Group has initiated a
Sketchup discussion section..
Agreed, there's quite a bit of Sketchup knowledge here from people
like Leon and Swingman. The FOG is also bound to have additional
And again, you can download the free version of Sketchup from here.
It looks like you didn't use the push/pull tool far enough to break the
outside faces of the block with the circle you used to push through to
get the hole?
In order to get a circular hole through both sides of solid, you need to
make sure you go all the way to the outside face of both sides ... just
like you do with a drill. ;)
If that is not the problem, can you make the model available for download?
Sure, I suck at sketchup. I sized those holes the wrong size.
I don't see a way to resize the hole, nor do I see a way to move a
Man this has taken me all day practically when not shovelling or raking
This is based off Ron Walters adjuster. I used my dial indicator to move
the fence the other day and it was dead on. I just want to build this
thing to make life easier instead of setting up a machinists' magnet and
arms.. takes too long.. I see this as a valuable tool. I was able to
dial it in , in seconds.
Ron's article is : http://woodgears.ca/reader/walters/fence_micro.html
My sketchup model is at:
I don't know a way to make a portable hole, either.
At least I didn't have to worry about that.
I find that if I don't completely unlock the fence to move it small
amounts, it works better. IOW, leave some friction on the lock to
keep the rear from moving. Also, adjust from the front, rather than
behind the lock to keep from "torquing" the fence. This looks useful,
though. Kinda "poor man's" Incra Fence.
Got it. Just a cursory review, looks like your were trying to push that
circle through two different/components that were made into a larger
That wont work with the push pull tool unless both sub-components are in
edit mode at the same time, which can't normally be done without using a
Let me have a shot at FIFY in the morning. What size hole?
So quick questions, is there a way to move a drilled hole?
What about resizing a hole?
If instead of making the two components part of the bigger, what if I
just group them. would that be more amenable to drilling a hole all the
Am what I doing with 2 components that unusual that you can't easily do it?
Also I have a new copy of sketchup with a few hours of pro avail. most
has already been eaten up. Anything I should look at in pro now, to make
me understand what the difference is?
I could have built this in 3 hours rather than trying to learn sketchup.
This was my best effort so far. but far from being comfortable. Most
efforts have resulted in less than complete results.
Not feeling well, have the damned flu ... but I got something to eat and
went back and looked at it.
You had quite a few problems, mostly extra parts and artifacts from
apparently editing outside the components, then making those artifacts
part of the component.
After I cleaned those bits and pieces I used just the edge of you
circles to cut, then paste-in-place in edit mode. Only took a few minutes.
You did good.
I posted the fixed version to abpw. Do you get that? Let me know if you
still have problems with it. Although I don't how much longer I can hang
If not, backchannel me at the email address below.
Yes. Open the component/group with the hole in edit mode|double click on
the inside face of the hole|when only the hole is highlighted all the
way from one side to the other, including the edges| use the Move tool
and move it where you want.
Makes it easier if you "hide" everything but the component you want to
work on. There is a plugin that makes this easier:
Then I simply drew a circle of the desired radius on the surface of your
component; hit Edit/Cut; then opened the component in Edit mode, hit
Edit/Paste-in-place; and while the component was still in Edit mode,
used the push/pull tool to complete the hole.
Besides the above method of drawing a circle with the desired radius on
the surface of a component/group in edit mode ... and using the
push/pull tool to make the hole ... you can also make a cylindrical
component of the desired radius and size, push it through the component
you want to make the hole in, then use "intersect faces", then remove
the cylindrical component from the component you want the hole in,
leaving just the hole.
This method is particularly handy when you need to "drill" angled holes
in a model, and/or in a model with a curved surface that you could not
normally draw or paste a circle onto.
A few years back I make a quick tutorial .skp file for one of the wRec
posters on how to do this.
Just re-posted it again to apbw.
Either manually click through the Scenes in the tutorial, or use
Let me know if it doesn't work for you
Thanks. I'm investing time in this. I'm liking the ability to
troubleshoot the sizes ahead of time. When I started I was guessing at
sizes. When I went and measured, it was pretty quick to adjust, except
re-centering the holes, or re-centering the pillow blocks... they didn't
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