wrote: >>There are those who would disagree with you. The issue is endorphins.
Two different kinds of addiction. Doctors categorize things
as being physically addictive, meaning the body develops a
dependency on them and there are withdrawal symptoms if it
doesn't get them; and behavioral addiction, where a person is
emotionally dependant on the reward of a particular activity.
Tobacco (nicotine) addiction is physical. Junk food, etc,
Sorry, but that's a naive viewpoint. There's ample examples of
ingesting substance into the lungs throughout history that showed the
dangers of inhaling various substances.
The Chinese smoked. North American Aboriginals smoked. And even your
Europeon and English inhaled coal dust giving rise to black lung
disease. Societies and various histories were well aware of the
dangers of inhaling undesirable substances.
Do you really believe nobody in various societies were aware of where
of the what caused a number of illnesses?
Are you living in a world different than than the one I am in or is the
above just wishful thinking?
From what I have read, a bit over 40% of the US population smoked in 1965,
just under 20% now which is about what it was in the 20s. And it isn't
hard to find cigarette vendors.
Well, it's kind of splitting hairs, but I think that, if
someone becomes addicted to nicotine, it's physical. But
not everyone that tries smoking becomes addicted. I recall
a co-worker who smoked precisely two cigarettes per day,
one after lunch and one driving home at the end of the day.
If he was addicted to anything, it was routine, not cigarettes.
At two a day, it is possible he was not addicted (did he ever stop for a
while?) and lung damage was minimal. Most of us could not do it that
I know a couple of people that did quit the pack a day habit and after
not smoking for a number of years decided to have just one. They were
immediately back to their old habit.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:24:44 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
To some degree, yes. To some degree everyone is different. Some have
very serious addiction to such things. Some will become addicted to
just about anything, as you allude. AIUI, the endorphin connection to
food is connected through insulin, also a very potent hormone.
No, not really. Endorphin addiction is as real, and very similar to
heroin addiction, for example.
There are many dietary professionals who will disagree with you.
Teenagers not listening to their parents is nothing new. The fact is
that this information *was* in the general populations for at least
decades before the Surgeon General's report. Parents *were* warning
their children of the dangers and even forbidding smoking. I know.
Mine were (in the 50s and 60s) and theirs were three decades before
That's a completely different issue. The fact is that it was known to
be a dangerous habit and people *chose* to do it anyway.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:52:35 +0000, John McCoy wrote:
OK, I think you described it better than I did. For example, I quit
smoking a carton or more a week after I had a heart attack 17 years ago.
Only problem I recall was the habit of reaching for my shirt pocket every
time I picked up a cup of coffee :-). But one might consider a heart
attack more motivation than most people have.
After that I limited myself to one cigar a month for 10 years - had no
problem sticking to that although I did allow an extra on my birthday.
After that, when I reached 70, I decided I could allow one a week with no
major downside - still sticking to that but I may give up that pleasure
if the prices keep going up.
A little arithmetic shows that when I was smoking that carton plus, my
lungs were inhaling smoke 20%-25% of the time. In comparison, my weekly
cigar works out to 0.03% of the time. Not a major source of contaminants.
Believe me, I'm not touting smoking. If you don't, don't start. If you
do, quit. Most people *do* get addicted so don't try my process unless
you're sure you're not.
It's *not* BS. "Cancer sticks" and "coffin nails" were part of the
lexicon in the 40s and 50s, if not before. People *knew* cigarettes
Fact. Perhaps yours didn't. Sue them. ;-)
The warnings were just a serious though perhaps the government didn't
constantly nag us. The information (that tobacco caused illness and
death) has been generally known for at least a couple of centuries.
Had forgotton about a friend who has a friend with stage 4 lung cancer
never smoked a day in her life of 70+ years.
As this is being typed, have been told hospice has arrived at her door
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