There three classic reasons for the criminal law of sanctions:
* To protect society from further depredations of the convicted;
* To rehabilitate the offender; and
* To deter others from similar rascally behavior.
Point three is the one I think you refer.
While it is true that felons cannot own a gun, there as a UNIVERSE of
occupations closed to them. They can't be lawyers, doctors, dentists,
nurses, CPAs, professional engineers, and more. They can't own a child-care
nursery or a plant nursery, they can't get a commercial driver's license for
hauling hazardous chemicals, they can't join the military, they can't own or
even work for an exterminating company.
The have a VERY hard time getting bonded, so most occupations handling money
are forstalled. Things like bank tellers, retail clerks, or ticket sellers
at the movie theatre.
They can't vote or hold political office. They can't be involved, even at
the margins, in law enforcement. In some places, they can't even be a notary
I've painted with a broad brush on the above. Certainly there exist
jurisdictions where some of the above sanctions do not apply, but nowhere
are ALL the constraints missing.
It's a bad hat to be a felon.
You are the one who asserted that it is not illegal to buy or use drugs in
the Netherlands. I disputed that, sort of. I showed you that it is illegal
in The Netherlands to "possess" virtually all drugs. By buying or using
drugs, one is "possessing" them, therefore both of those conditions are
It is now up to you to validate your claim.
Any ggogleing of "Netherlands Drug Policy" will show that oan walk into
a restaurant in the Netherlands and buy drugs off a menu.
Technically, they are unlawful however the official policy is that the
law is not enforced. The same is true in Portugal. If you want to call
something done in accordance with official government policy "illicit"
go right ahead.
I'm glad you finally agree with my statement above, "EVERY drug illegal to
possess in the US is also illegal to possess in the Netherlands."
If you want to discuss police and prosectorial malfeasance, corruption in
government, and subverting the rule of law, that's a whole 'nother thread.
The policy in Portugal is implemented by public law. So how is that
"police and prosecutorial malfeasance, corruption in government, and
subverting the rule of law"?
Sorry, but you really need to get your head of the DEA's ass and start
doing some research on your own--the DEA has a vested interest in making
us believe that drugs are an immense problem that can only be resolved
by draconian measures implemented by the DEA busting all and sundry.
I knew nothing about Portugal, so I didn't comment on it. Since you
insisted, I looked it up.
EVERY drung illegal in the U.S. is likewise imposes a sanction on the
While up to a ten day's supply of a drug is not subject to CRIMINAL
penalties in Portugal, people who possess these drugs ARE subject to CIVIL
remedies, including fines and incarceration.
You are confusing "decriminalization" with "legalization." Illegal drugs are
still "illegal" in Portugal, though only through the civil process.
And you're back to your home turf, grade school insults (since that's the
best you're capable of).
Let's see, that would make the score:
Everybody Else 99
Even pulling the goalie is no longer an option Mr. Screen Name. Better luck
I see it bothers you to be called Devvy.
I was waiting for a tray of stuffed peppers to bake, so I had a little
time to waste.
So I did a little Googling and lo and behold DGDevin is an asshole in
LOTS of other newsgroups too.
Same MO, same weak shit, and of course ALL other people are stupid.
Doesn't matter what the topic is, Devvy steers it to a point where he
can claim (often weak) victory.
Devvy likes nothing better than belittling people.
Signs of a bully.
I LIKE beating up on bullies. They need to be taught a lesson. Most of
them, and I have every reason to believe Devvy is one of them, will
run away with their tails between their legs, especially in a real
You're an asshole, Devvy... to the core.
Ooopps.. the oven just beeped... have a nice day, Devvy, I shall not
waste any more time today dealing with your transparent weak-ass
trolling. ( I said today.. I may decide to tickle you under your chin
at a later date.)
A) What connection is there between what I posted and your response? B) Why
would anyone by upset to be called names by an angry imbecile?
English translation: your nose is so out of joint that you did a search on
me in hopes of finding something to use as a stick with which to beat me,
you're *that* angry. Sad, or what?
Another *devastating* blow, it's a miracle I haven't thrown myself sobbing
onto the floor, isn't it.
Let's see, *you* are the guy who jumped into a thread you otherwise had no
interest in just to piss and whine about what a bastard I am, but you
maintain that *I'm* the troll. So now we know that you're as ignorant of
logic as you are of irony.
Hey, you know what's really funny, I don't even remember what it was that we
were arguing about that has clearly left such bruises on your ego. Whatever
it was, you obviously haven't forgotten, have you.
I'm not upset about you calling me names. Stop giving yourself so much
That translation of yours is incorrect. Making up stuff again, eh?
Uhhmm, nope. I googled other news groups because I was curious to find
out if it was normal for you to get so upset.
Obviously, you get all excited if anybody talks to you. You do this
all the time. Streeeetching out discussions just to feel wanted.
Unfortunately, you are just not interesting enough for me to do any
Devvy, if lowly lill' ol' me gets you all this excited, you must live
a very boring life.
You are correct about one thing. You did demonstrate in a previous
exchange how screwed up you are, I just butted in to see if your
condition was chronic.
It seems to be.
Bottom line? I'm bored with you. How about something creative?
Nighty night! Don't stay up too long thinking of ways to get to this
Big Bad Robatoy... because regardless of what gurgles out of your
limited mind, I will always consider that it is just Devvy spouting
And now I fart in your general direction!
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