Other uses for maple trees

Feb 13, 2004 37 Replies

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:06:00 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@fairfax.com scribbled:

Coming to think of it, there's a Manitoba Maple (Box elder, Keith; "Acer negundo" for those who care) on the property I own downtown. I wonder if I should try tapping it in May when the sap starts running.

BTW, they make birch syrup in Alaska. Except they usually have to add fructose to it to get it to the right consistency as birch sap has a lot less sugar in it.

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as good as maple syrup, but will do in a pinch. Certainly better than the other commercial "table" or "pancake" syrups.

Luigi Who doesn't really need to do this as he still has about a dozen cans of real maple syrup brought to him by friends visiting from down east.

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Thanks for the links. I love birch beer and saspirilla instead of RB. I don't know if Elder can be tapped or not. You should look it up for toxicity before trying it. The birch syrup is an interesting thought, and a great excuse for waffles (hold more syrup than pancakes).

Dave in Fairfax

If you would like a wonderful recipe for yeast (rather than baking soda) leavened waffles, please let me know. They are really wonderful...

It isn't apparent at all, especially for deciduous trees, regardless of what any book states. I've been through two winters in Idaho where the temperature got down to -40 F or slighly lower. In neither case did I notice any particular failure of conifers (although I was only

11 years old the first time). In the second case, I was in Moscow, Idaho. It was estimated that about 50 percent of all the old hardwoods (say over 18 inches in diameter) died when the trunks simply split lengthwise. I would say that survival of deciduous trees is pretty iffy when the temperature gets that low.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:17:43 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@fairfax.com scribbled:

Box elder (AKA Manitoba Maple, ash-leaved maple) is a maple, not an elder, which can be toxic. Although elderberries are used in liqueurs: sambuca means elderberry in Italian.

Luigi Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address

Shoot then go for it. I'm going to take your word for the translation, the little Italian I learned from theh neighborhood kids can't be repeated here. %-) Dave in Fairfax

Howdy,

You may be off by an "a":

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it is "sambuco."

HTH,

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:12:48 -0500, Kenneth scribbled:

Typically, in Italian, the masculine ending in "o" ("i" in the plural) refers to the plant while the feminine ending in "a" ("e" in the plural) refers to the fruit.

There is one exception that I know of, "fico", fig, which is only used in the masculine in polite company. I will leave it to your imagination to determine what it means in the feminine (hint, it is feminine not only in the grammatical sense). Maybe sambuco is another exception. But it's not a wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap "bad" word.

Luigi Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address

It takes an oak tree something like 50 years to get big enough to make lumber in a good and proper climate anyway, I'd expect. Maybe burr oak is a faster-than-average species.

That's because real trees obviously have better sense than *you* do. They realize that the Yukon is not a fit place to live. :)

I'll take it. (My email works...)

I absolutely *detest* waffles and pancakes, having spent too many summers working the pancake grill at McDonald's in my youth, but I make them from scratch for the rest of the family.

Yeast might change the character of the things enough that I could stomach them. Maybe. In any event, the family would probably love them.

(Actually, wow... Whatever happened to Sunday morning breakfasts? I haven't made pankcakes or waffles in ages. I used to be the official breakfast chef back when all four of us were actually here on Sunday mornings.)

There might bring back Sunday morning breakfasts:

I have been making these for over thirty years. Got 'em originally from the Farm Journal IIRC.

You might want to divide the recipe as this makes perhaps a dozen large waffles...

Mix 1 quart milk, 3/4 TSP yeast, 1.5 TSP salt, 1.5 TSP sugar, 640g AP flour, 1.5 stick melted butter to form smooth batter.

Cover, and allow to ferment overnight at room temperature.

When ready to bake waffles add 3 beaten eggs and 3/4 TSP baking soda. Mix again.

That's it, and they are spectacular.

If you give them a try, please let me know what you think.

All the best,

Thanks...

No telling when I might use it, but I printed it and stuck it in ye olde recipe box. Now I just need to work on getting all four of us together at the same time and place. :)

Hehehe, man named "Kenneth" correcting "Luigi Zanasi" on use of Italian. Mamma Mia... I suppose you want me to believe that my grandmother (God rest her soul) was mispronouncing "Bizza" and "Sangwich" all those years?

-Chris

I'm planning it for next Sunday, working Saturday AM. Got my cast iron griddle out and I'm seasoning it. Can't wait Dave in Fairfax

Hi Chris,

"Bizza" and "Sangwich" are correct...

On 18 Feb 2004 13:48:13 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@mybluelight.com (Chris) scribbled:

You mean it's not actually pronounced "sangwich"? :-) But I have corrected people's English, so it's par for the course.

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is right, at least according to all the dictionaries I consulted.

Luigi Whose tird (superfluous "h" omitted) language is English.

My Dad called and told me they took down the neighbors Silver Maple tree. I lived 20 years of my life being shaded by it, playing around it, and raking up her leaves. He said he couldn't believe the big son of b was solid all the way down. A few phone calls a few hours later and she was already firewood. They musta used a helluva saw to make firewood out of her.

She was at least one hundred feet tall and 8 feet around... Probably the largest oldest tree around. Now the whole neighborhood looks bare and bright. I didn't want much, just a couple hundred board feet. So much for "I made this dresser from Mr. Biers old maple tree".

SCREW MAPLE SYRUP, I WANT LUMBER!!!

Sorry guys, just venting...

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