OT: We The People...

Jul 22, 2010 134 Replies
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That's not totally incorrect, but it's a gross oversimplification. It's only one version of socialism. Just like any other political/economic system, there is considerable diversity of views among those who call themselves socialists. Considerably more than among those who label anyone a socialist who is not a far right radical.

For a (remarkably) reasonable summary of the various versions of socialism see:

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was a bit surprised at the following quote:

"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate (the) grave evils (of capitalism), namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society."

Albert Einstein, Why Socialism, 1949

Seems ol'Albert was a utopian as well as a physicist :-).

Aaaaaaaaaa-men, Brother !

You and Upitty the ones squealing like kids. You cut it out.

Nope, it is *the* definition.

Utter nonsense.

You've just shown yours, in spades.

I already knew the definition of "socialism". My "homework" was simply to show that you were doing nothing less than squealing in the breeze.

Agreeing with Mark's assessment of "statist" vs. "socialist/progressive/liberal" is "riding his coattails"? Another prime example of your squealing.

" snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Thanks!

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As someone put it, "They say they intend to rule benevolently, but make no mistake about it, they intend to rule!"

We'll just put you in the Stein/Mark column then. Hard-core to the right because you have a closed mind and simply don't know any better. It *is* hard to see with your head up your (and other's) ass. Put on a brown shirt and start marching, sucker!

Crap. You put me in that column *long* ago, just as I put you in the Upitty column way back. Rightfully, BTW.

Leftist loon without a lick of sense.

You're the one with his head firmly up Uppity's ass. It's actually sorta mutual. The only reason you to don't have spine problems is that leftist loons have no spine.

No you....no YOU... no YOU LOL gawd... you stay up all night to write these super-cool come-backs? Man, you suck!

No, I don't lay awake nights trying to be liked by you or Upitty. You may think you deserve such treatment, but that's just a common leftist's fantasy.

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Psst, krw, you're getting muddy.

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Yep, thats for sure. I crack up every time I read your sig. Don't know many Liberals, Progressives or whatever they call themselves these days that have much if any ammo or rounds. They are at a disadvantage in that respect!

haha Rich

Please differentiate your comments from my post. The last sentence above was not mine, but yours.

I don't know how that posted that way. Certainly not intentional.

Of course he's getting muddy. He rolls around in the same dirt as you.

The definition of "socialism" requires OWNERSHIP of the means of production. It is not socialism for the government to "control" the means of production, something they have always done with regulations, taxes, fines, and so forth.

Can the government seize the means of production at a whim? If so then it owns them regardless of any paper that says otherwise.

ANY government can do that. That they Can does not make them Socialist.

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