Same thing. We have a discount liquor warehouse that may not give you
an additional discount (as the price is lower anyway), but some of the
wines we like are not available there. So we look elsewhere.
I don't have a lot of experiece (i.e. I tried it at 4 stores), but
with the one exception above, if you ask about a bulk discount, they
will give you 5% to 10% when you buy 6 or more of the same.
Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of
$500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract.
That may be because I'm reliably informed the East River bluefish IS water
soaked Charmin. Maybe yours was a local variety known as a Striper. They have
whitefish and brownfish as well. Hell, they even got silverfish. <G>
We never had salmon as kids because it simply wasn't available, and I never
cared that much for it until I finally learned how to cook it ... which is
to hardly do so at all. ;)
I now have it about once a week.
It was such a rip-off to the store that I felt kind of bad at first, but
that didn't last very long.
As each day passes I'm more and more convinced that penalizing stupidity is
about the only way to discourage it, and if you're that damn stupid to keep
repeating stupidity even after it costs you, you need to pay through the
In Texas if you advertise something at a price, you must sell it at that
price and even offer rain checks unless it is clearly stipulated that
quantities are limited. In all three cases all that was limited was the
time, as in "offer good thru mm/dd/yy".
SWMBO actually got two rain checks, each signed by a manager on duty at the
time, and they were honored after only a very brief struggle. ;)
They haven't made that mistake again for a few months now ... and believe
me, I'm watching.
It must be rampant ... I was listening to Tom Martino in the truck this
morning and damned if they weren't talking about the same thing: "corporate
Try this Salmon recipe:
Take a fillet of Salmon
Section in pieces small enough to wrap in Prosciutto slices
Wrap each salmon section in at least 2 Prosciutto slices.
Cook on a medium hi heat 2 to 3 minute a side in 2-tblspn olive oil
Side serving suggestion
Microwave steamed asparagus or corn of the cob
French Bread and butter.
What leads you to believe that the gasoline is inferior to the $0.03USD
more expensive gas? (Not 3%, note, but 3 cents more).
All the discount chains get their fuel from one of the major refineries.
It's all the same stuff, passes through the same pipelines to get to the
terminals, then gets offloaded onto trucks for retail delivery.
First off my referal to gasoline that is 3% more expensice refers to Name
Actually the better name brandstuff runs about 3% or 8 to 10 centh more than
the no name brand. What leads me to believe that the cheap stuff is
inferior? 20 years in the automotive business. While the gasoline for the
most part starts out from the same hole in the ground many automobile
manufacutrers are strongly suggesting that owners use a upper tier gasoline.
IIRC Shell, Exxon and Chevron sell upper tier fuel. Many places sell
gasoline and better ones sell gasoline with additives and better detergents
that help to keep the injectors and carburetors clean.
For those that have worked in the service departments of a car dealership,
this is not news.
The trip is a little more complex. It's not "all" the same stuff.
Take a look here to learn a bit about the Top Tier gasolines.
Oddly, back in the early 80's the local Texaco refinery was putting an
additive in the gasoline that actually ate the galvanized plating off of the
insides of the tanks. The plating flaked off and clogged tank socks, fuel
filters, needle and seats in carburetors, injector nozzles and created a
huge head ache for their customers buying Texaco gasoline. Our dealership
alone probably cleaned out and billed hundreds of owners and they were
promptly reimbursed for the repairs by Texaco. Texaco issued letters to the
customers and dealerships regarding this matter. Only Texaco gas stations
had that brief problem in the Houston area.
In california the price of gasoline is dependent upon neighborhood, not
Clearly not true in California.
I'm sorry, but anecdotal information is not sufficient. How about some citations
from peer-reviewed publications that confirm your thesis?
Of course not. Most car manufacturers have co-marketing agreements with
the oil companies such that they'll favor one brand over another. There's
nothing there but marketing.
Cite please? Note that the gasoline from the refinery is pumped via
pipelines to the distribution terminals. Both name-brand and off-brand
retailers are served from the same tank farm using product transported by
the same pipeline.
I'm sorry, but a trade organization for the so-called top-tier
POL vendors isn't my idea of unbiased information.
Nothing odd about it. Everyone makes mistakes. I'm not sure how this story
has anything to do with the assertion that non-name-brand gasoline (which _is_
produced at the same refineries as the name-brand gasoline) is worse
Same in Houston TX however within the neighborhood the different brand
stations from top end to bottom end will still show about a 3% price
difference. In some neighborhoods the local grocery store gas is more
expensive than Chevron is in my neighborhood. It's all relative.
I really have no need to prove anything to you, check the link I posted and
gather that information for your self. Infact, I dare you to look up
information all by your self so that you will not claim Bias.
It's all a conspiracy right. I'm sorry but you have clearly demonstrated
that you do not know enough to know that you don't know.
Ok, I give up. I provided proof, My Word and experience. You can go on
believing what you want.
I thought I could simply lead you to the water. Texaco was the only one
having that gasoline problem, If all the gasoline is the same as you say,
all stations would have been having problems.
Nevermind, go on about your business.
To believe that all gas is equal in quality (not "grade") at the time of
introduction to your tank is to be naive ...and the longer you use the
inferior quality (not "grade"), the fewer "cites" are needed to prove that
Gas that is sold at the ex Texaco station, with the old Texaco sign covered
with a tarp, for 25 cents a gallon less than the price at the Shell station
across the street, is more not the same gas, guaranteed ... if anyone really
believes that, I 've got some swap land for sale they may be interested in.
It's what happens down market that determines the difference. Many different
additives, as well as fuel preservatives, and in differing proportions, are
added by various parties at various points on the way to the gas pump.
Couple that with the fact that gas deteroriates with storage and the longer
the storage, generally the more fuel preservatives must be added to keep it
useful as engine fuel, and the higher the incident of cross or water
Lower priced gas on the market at independent, no name stations may well
have been stored much longer, is much more likely to have fewer detergents
and deposit control additives, making for inferior quality, may even be
close to the end of useful life, cross contaminated with other gases and/or
water and the preservative content may be reaching a point to make it
unmarketable, even though it may at one point was "served from the same tank
AAMOF, after the hurricanes a couple of years ago, the government looked the
other way while much of the above was done, on purpose, to keep the prices
There is good gas, inferior gas, and bad gas ... one tank of the latter is
all you ever need to prove that without the need for "peer reviewed
publications" and "cites".
When I worked in Haz-Mat response one of my duties was to inspect the local
gasoline terminal. LARGE tanks filled with gasoline piped in and stored by
Ashland Oil, no other company. A tank truck would come in and fill up with
gas and then go to a series of pumps almost identical to a self serve gas
pump. The driver would put the nozzel into the tank and swipe a "credit"
card through the machine at which time the pump would dispense a preset mix
and amount of additaves to the tank. The mix would depend on who it was
going to, Gulf, Shell or Mom and Pop etc. and grade of gas. The people who
ran the tank farm told me that you bought the same "gas" no matter who you
bought gas from, but you could only get the additives from one brand
depending on which additives you wanted. JMTCW
That's true, because "gasoline" is basically a specific chemical compound.
But, as you noted, the difference, which can indeed effect "quality", is in
what is added, or not added, down the line.
That said, as a kid we used to burn what was called "condensate" or "drip"
(captured in 55 gal drums _at the well head_ from wells on the property) in
the farm vehicles ... this "unrefined" gasoline obviously had NO additives
whatsoever, but did the job.
AAMOF, my grandfather and uncles burned "drip" in their trucks to no ill
effect that I can recall.
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