OT Gettysburg Addresss

[Keith Nuttle]

We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg address. We should stop and take a minute to reread it.

I hope you all noticed that our "illustrious" president decided not to attend the ceremonies. I suspect he could not bring himself to attend any thing that may honor what is stated in the last paragraph.

"- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain

-- that this nation, under GOD, shall have a new birth of freedom

-- and that government OF the people, BY the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

This is not what the social democrats what to promote. If they believe that they would not be able to block all legislation to correct the problems created when they unilaterally forced obamacare down our throats

Note My spell checker wants to replace obamacare with macabre, Even my dumb computer know what is right

________________________________________________________________________ "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Abraham Lincoln November 19, 1863"

[Sonny]

PBS will air Lincoln@Gettysbrug tonight at 9CST, here. Check your local listing.

Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at Gettysburg.

Sonny

[Bob Martin]

Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere? It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.

[G. Ross]

Reading OT threads is optional anywhere on the planet. However, if only 4 % of the planet is concerned with freedom, equality, and abolishment of slavery then we are worse off than I imagined.

[Lew Hodgett]

------------------------------------------------------- "Bob Mart> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?

--------------------------------------------------- Don't have a clue.

"96% of the planet"?

Freedom isn't "free" but are you suggesting that 96% of the planet is enslaved?

What are your current woodworking projects?

What about posting some of your work?

Lew

[scritch]

Keith, don't let your ideology contaminate your education. There are at least five accepted versions of the Gettysburg Address, and the President was asked by Ken Burns to read the Nicolay version, which does not contain the word "God" in it.

And remember that it was those socialist Democrats that ended child labor, and brought you the 40-hour work week, overtime pay, workplace safety, food safety, cleaner air and water, etc. We have lived since

1980 under an increasingly non-socialist-Democrat philosophy and income disparity is as bad as in the Gilded Age, as bad as in 1929, wages for the vast majority have stagnated or dropped while the top 1% gained 16% more wealth just last year! So which system does right by more people, meaning you, unless you are one of the 1%.

[Lew Hodgett]

------------------------------------------- It is amazing to see how gullible some people can be when the snake oil salesmen keep selling their voodoo under the guise of offering a chance of getting rich if only they continue to accept Laissez-faire and allow it to flourish.

Lew

[Bob Martin]

Totally irrelevant. If this group were flooded with posts on UK politics or French politics I think you'd be one of the first to complain.

[Bob Martin]

"are you suggesting that 96% of the planet is enslaved?"

How on earth do you get there?

[Keith Nuttle]

Education???????

[Lew Hodgett]

"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

------------------------------------------------------ "Bob Mart> How on earth do you get there?

---------------------------------------------------- Some reason you chose to snip my legimate questions rather than answer them?

Fuck off limey.

Lew

[krw]

If it were, I'd just hit "next", something you're more than welcome to do.

[doh]

Uh. What does this have to do with Woodworking? Just curious.

[Lew Hodgett]

--------------------------------------------- Read and understand OT in the Subject.

Lew

[Swingman]

Having OT in the subject line has a lot to do with the fact that, left alone, decent and considerate people are quite capable of governing themselves by common consent.

Wrap your mind that, instead of being so hell bent on controlling what others do.

[Mike]

Therein lies the problem. He and his ilk believe it means 'On Topic'

doh indeed.