On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 23:57:45 -0800, email@example.com (Glenna Rose) wrote:
Remember the plastic boxes for holding .5.25 floppies. A crappy plastic box with
a flip up lid $30.
I was making them out of oak with roll tops and selling them for just a bit more
to friends in the computer club.
I still have my pine prototype roll top and use it everyday.
The roll top was made with a chunk of my wife's old blue jeans and 1/8 paneling.
It was one of my first ever wood working projects.
I'll post a picture in the binary group so youse can all have a good laugh.
Do I get a prize for bringing the thread back on topic.<g>
I probably have every floppy I ever made from the early 80s.
Seems that is in the neighborhood of what I paid for my 10-MB external
drive for my Epson QX-10 (CPM, much better than DOS, had the opportunity
to compare). Like yours, it was heaven. (1984, 85?)
Understood. I still have both of my original QX-10 machines. But then I
also have all of the DOS and later Windows machines I bought in addition
to my Macs. I don't even want to think of how many computers are in this
house/basement/garage! Must remember, however, computers were the base of
my secretarial/bookkeeping service bureau, and I had to buy newer/better
to keep current. Now, my computers are mostly just for fun. :-) (It is
nice to choose when to buy new rather than be "forced" into it by market.)
Though what started out as fun has helped me immensely at work. No
kidding, I designed my granddaughter's bedside table on InDesign, not even
that kind of program, it's a page layout program (publishing, newspapers,
magazines). Like a hammer and saw, it all depends on the user what can be
created, inventive can result in some unusual results. Note: I *do not*
recommend using what is a intricate word processing program for furniture
design! I did it more for the challenge than for practical use; but I
don't have any type of drafting program, and it worked.<g>
LOL. Methinks the diehard Mac users have something to be satisfied with;
like any, it's how it's used that matters. I made the switch in 2000 for
iMovie because of my interest in Video. I taught DOS and Windows (all
flavors)through my business, two school districts' community ed programs,
then at Computer City at Jantzen Beach in Portland until they went
bye-bye. Now it's only an occasional Mac class at PMUG (taught one last
night) and was college dean for a year or so (that one is volunteer!)
until I went to work where I am now. I could not list all of the programs
I've taught and even fewer of all that I've used; no one would believe it
anyway. My eldest son has even more but started later than me, and hates
Windows (refers all Windows requests to other consultants). Each O/S has
its place and its champions.
What CAD programs do you use on your Mac?
My G-4 (this one) has been on my desk since August 2004. On it, I've
learned iMovie (simple), FinalCut Pro, FileMaker Pro, PhotoShop, InDesign
(preceded by FrameMaker and Quark), QuickBooks, and on and on and on.<g>
Versatility can be both a blessing and a curse. It's like hobbies, what
takes priority, the shop, the garden, the yard, the sewing machine, what?
LOL, I won't tell. I know folks that run emulators so they can use their
Macs for business-specific programs (inspectors, florists, etc.) that are
part of a corporation environment.
They both have their place. Both my desktop PC and Mac (OS 9 and X) are
on their respective desks and powered up most of the time. The laptop
(which has Panther installed, previously Jaguar) doesn't get as much use
since I have Panther at work. *And* I'm spoiled at work with dual
Windows 3.1 for Workgroups is what I went back to on my PC as it is so
much more stable than all the others. I didn't even take 98 out of the box
and wasn't interested in the others after I explored them. It does what I
need there, *and* I have my Mac for the "fancy" stuff. :-)
All of them have served me well.
BTW, are you aware of any low-end drafting type programs to be used for
simple projects for the Mac? (Middle son, P.E., is a mite busy with work,
family and church so not much time to draw for me, and I like to do stuff
myself anyway, maybe let him refine it.)
Hello Glenna... *waves*
Microspot MacDraft PE 5.5 Quartz Edition hands down.
You'll find the environment instantly familiar from the MacDraw days.
Microspot has never taken the eye off the ball when it came to CAD on
the Mac. US$ 116.00 that's for the download version. For the same price,
Microspot Interiors for OSX is a lot of fun. Download a demo?
I use Vectorworks 10 by Nemetschek.
I have been with them since it was designed for a mini computer (You
know, the ones the size of a washer dryer) and called MiniCAD. I still
have the MiniCAD 1 manuals. *S*
When loyal MiniCAD users were constantly complaining that the name
MiniCAD gave the wrong impression of its capabilities, they finally
broke down when OS X was on the horizon and called it Vectoworks.
Daniel Libeskind won the World Trade Center Design Study competition in
New York City..The Freedom Tower.. another happy Vectorworks user. *VBS*
It's everything anybody could want in a CAD program. AutoCAD has nothing
better to offer (for me) and I say this with confidence, because I took
AutoCAD for 3 years at the local college and have my 3D-modelling
diploma from them. I did that because most industry around here is all
Vectorworks supports .dwg file formats flawlessly, it is not an issue.
VectorWorks is my program of choice because of its versatility and
comprehensiveness. Another important factor is that it has been around
for a long time with a refined interface and good support. It is also a
lot of bang for the buck..... even though it is US 1345.00.. that is
with Renderworks included.
( I have a LOT more invested if you add up about 10 major upgrades over
the last 15 years... hence.. the Mac.
Vectorworks is available for Windows, and people are happy with that.
I am hearing a lot about SketchUp for Mac OSX. I have a demo of it, but
I have yet to take the time to look at it. That's under US$ 500.00
..shit...look at the time....
If I hadn't returned it, you could have mine. Everyone raved about them
so I bought one, just too entrenched in my hand/finger movements to adapt
to it and returned it after two or three weeks of trying. To this day,
everyone else I know who used one absolutely loved/loves them. My oldest
son has a really bizarre keyboard on his desktop Mac, another which I
cannot use. (Old dogs, new tricks thing, I guess.<g>)
I can't stand a regular keyboard for long. My wrists start hurting almost
immediately from the awkward angle. One reason I've never considered
buying a laptop.
A Kensington by chance? I think that was the name. I used to have my eye
on this really weird keyboard that was two dish-shaped pads. All the keys
equidistant from your fingers, and you could put the pads some considerable
distance apart. I looked at it in magazines. It was extremely expensive.
Then the Natural came out shortly thereafter. It's close enough. About
the only good idea Microsoft ever had. Unless they ripped off this idea
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan < firstname.lastname@example.org>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Funny, but if someone started a "What's the best tool you've ever
bought" thread, I'd probably rank my PC biscuit joiner in the top 5 of
my tools. It's great for edge-joining and the occasional face frame.
Funny how that works. I bought an older Ryobi at a cabinet shop's going out
of business sale for fifty bucks, worried that I was throwing money away on
a tool I'd never use. And it's been real handy. Banded the edge of the
workbench, my panelglueing got better, put shelves in a nightstand door.
It makes aligning a lot easier and faster. I don't use it a LOT but it's
sure not on my list of tools I wish I never bought.
I guess that honor goes to the first "serious" tool I ever bought - a used
direct-drive Craftsman table saw. At least, I *thought* it was serious when
I bought it.
Almost gave up on woodworking till I found out it might be that screaming,
dancing, wobble-bladed monster. Still got the stand around here someplace.
(1) I use my Freud biscuit joiner with fair regularity. Haven't tried the
135degree thingy with it that PC advertises, but looks like it should do
just fine with the fixed 90deg. fence and the adjustable fence together.
(2)Not all DD saws are screamers. My TS is an early 80's vintage Craftsman
DD, but with an induction motor, not a universal(no, it's not one of the
flex cable driven ones). I would love to replace it, but that's down the
road a ways. With a decent blade & some blade stabilizers it does OK. The
stabilizers were the best investment I made for it, because the original
pressed steel ones were causing way too much runout.
I glue up right after jointing, lightly clamping only 3-4 boards at most at
one time. I make sure the joints are flat at the ends and middle by feel,
and use a rubber mallet to fine position the boards prior to tight
clamping. I do the (wider) final glueup from the sections in the same way.
Works okay for me ... although I can see your point that on a big glueup it
would be very handy to have a biscuit joiner.
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