Being cheap and/or sloppy is <not> the same as thrifty or frugal...
I'm w/ Chuck on this one...the generation which survived the Depression
has a whole different understanding of "need" than current ones. I, for
one, am grateful that my grandfather <did> keep so much -- now, while
some of it is, in fact, not valuable, other things are fond
remembrances. Plus, all the old lumber salvaged from the old chicken
coop or other places and stored in the haymow for 60 years or more came
in <extremely> handy in the barn restoration. Not easy to find
full-dimension 2x stuff anymore...
LOL! I have no idea, but I have a bunch of cords left from the time I had a
wiring wardrobe malfunction and put 220V to all my shop lights. Oops. I
thought about saving the thin aluminum side panels too.
On this general topic, I'm gutting my closets, cleaning house HARD while
SWMBO is away. Haven't looked at it in 15 years? You'll never notice it's
missing. You didn't know where it was anyway. I found a shower curtain
rod from two places back. I have been saving it because I thought it would
be useful again some day. Well, I put a buncha crap on a shelf in my own
closet, which I have never really used for anything except my flannel
shirts and some dress clothes I haven't worn in yearrrrs. (I own a tie?
Why do I own a tie?)
Oh, um. I'm getting sidetracked. Spending seven hours on a perfectly
gorgeous shop day cleaning out the damn closets in the house must have done
it to me. Sigh. I did get my printer stand glued together, finally. Only
the second time I've tried to build anything that's well and truly
furniture-like. If I had been wanting it to look better, I would have
neatened it up and put a face frame on it, and done a more tidy job with
the glue. I *could* have done these things. I may anyway, even though it
means stripping the existing finish off the recycled plywood I used and
putting a new finish on it. Anyway, it's just simple dado + glue joinery.
Multi kerfs with the waste chiseled out by my son. It would have looked
better if I had had better control of my new rabbet plane for the top bit,
but hell, for something I knocked out in a couple hours (spread out over a
dismally long week) it's pretty damn solid. Flat on the floor, square,
tight. I guess I do have a little bit of skill after all! It was really
too damn big to make in my itty bitty shop though. I'm going to have to
move my lathe and a bunch of other stuff if I ever want to rip anything
longer than 30" out there. Kinda makes the prospect of building curio
cabinets some day seem like something that should come after I build a real
shop, in 20 or 30 years. Sigh.
Oh, blah blah blah, what the hell was I rambling about? The closet pole.
Anyway, it was supposed to help hold up the shelf I loaded down with my
wife's old childhood crap she can't get rid of. It didn't fit, so...
I THREW IT AWAY!
I have about two entire boxes of trash bags out by the curb FULL of stuff.
I have shitloads of closet space right now. Maybe when I'm finished you'll
actually be able to walk through my damn house without tripping over
anything. My house looks about as bad as my shop. My wife and I both got
an F in housekeeping, and the last time we called dial-a-maid, she ran off
cackling like a lunatic.
Wow. I have to go drink some beer, smoke a cigar, and maybe go buy a copy
of Hustler or something to prove I'm not gay after all this. :)
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan < email@example.com>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
On this general topic, I'm gutting my closets, cleaning house HARD while
There's a new (to me) show about garage remodels (GT Garage Takeover?). The
one I caught the other day the guy had 2 full sized dumpsters worth of crap
taken away! They showed his work area in the basement,.. same story..
Not to say I couldn't use a little of that myself....
Umm, I picked up my D&D 21 year old early this evening (about 10:30 pm) for
starting fights at a party. He quit listening to his daddy several years
The alarms go off at 4:00 am, 3 hours & 40 minutes from now, to take him to
the airport to go back to the <yea!> Army...
On his behalf, he's only 1/3rd as messed up as I was at his age.
If you're lucky, and the Army does its part, you'll find that, in about 4
years, the conversations will get a LOT better.
My wife says it's a lot easier to be patient with the kids at this age from
hundreds of miles away. Smart woman I married.
who was lucky that, when the cell phone went off at 1 am, it was a wrong
I spend a lot of time praying my kids don't *ever* end up as screwed
up as I was growing up. Even 1/3 would suck (as you seem to agree). It
was not good growing up during the 60's and 70's.
Oh contraire! It was great growing up in the 60's and 70's. Parents had a
helluva lot more control, we prayed in school, we recited the Pledge Of
Allegiance, kids had no cell phones, no murders in the schools, hell we used
pocket knives to sharpen pencils. 70's in high school, during the hunting
months, we came to school with our rifles/shotguns hanging in the gun racks
in the back windows of our trucks. Yes, it was good back then. Now it sucks.
Having a full time police officer on staff, going through metal detectors,
not being able to say the Pledge Of Allegiance. Where exactly do you
live???? Come on, what we did back then got our asses tanned by the
principal, the by our father when we got home. Now, it's a criminal offense
to scold the brats at Wal-Mart???? Crawl out from under the rock Tim.
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 00:50:21 GMT, "Bullwinkle J. Moose"
Let me just say "sex, drugs and rock and roll". On a poll of my
graduating class 98% said they used drugs. You could probably count
the virgins on one hand. Things were pretty much adrift. Most of the
restrictions we have today come from the excess of the 60's and 70's.
Sure we carried knives to school - and sometimes used them carve on
Some things may be worse today, but I don't see nearly as much of the
life-destroying behavior we embraced so enthusiastically back then. I
was, quite frankly, lucky to escape my high school years alive. Some
of my classmates weren't that lucky.
That's annoying, isn't it? Last time I was in the market, I took the job
I now have (no kidding) but called the other two places I had interviewed
with to thank them for their time, and to let them know I had accepted an
offer elsewhere. I didn't know if I was still in the running with them
or not, but I figured it was worth a phone call as a courtesy. Apparently
not many people do that, because they both acted strange when I did it.
Maybe they'd already hired and never bothered to call me, though, hard
I now have the name of the place that will take those monitors, so I'm
making progress. I also cleared out (let's see) about six square feet
of floor space, including a lot of little items that had accumulated.
Found a stack of missing CDs (don't ask) and my snap-ring plier set.
Thing with that, is you have to lose a whole weekend to make a couple
hundred bucks if you're lucky, arguing with people who want to pay only
four dollars for something worth 20, instead of the 5 it's marked at.
eBay sometimes, but I've been known to take stuff to work, put up a notice
on the trade board saying "first at my desk to take it can have it" for
things that are useful, but not to me.
That's a good way to go. For my last west coast stint, I took
along my PC690, my little PC panel saw, and an old B&D VSR drill
- and rented an unfurnished apartment. I bought two futon sofas
and built all the rest of a normal complement of furnishings
using (mostly) SPF from a San Jose lumberyard.
Right before I left I posted a notice on the lab bulletin board
announcing a "Grand Opening Going Out of Business Sale" with "No
money down same as cash". The next morning I helped two young
couples I'd worked with load the works (knocked down) into their
SUV and van and watched 'em happily drive it all home. One of the
other consultant types hauled away my little impromptu
three-legged workbench to use in refurbing his sailboat up on the
Made me wish I'd done that on all the trips before. Felt /good/.
I bought the $19.95 HF clone. I use it every time I do drywall work
with a good guidepoint bit. It is, without question, one of the
absolutely essential tools for hanging drywall at anything but a
casual amateur level. Every professional drywaller I know uses one and
I would have killed for such a tool back when I was doing it
professionally. The dust is a pretty minor thing when you compare the
speed and accuracy issues.
Having used both, I still prefer a utility knife and a straightedge
when it comes to drywall- even over a drywall saw. Never got the
rotozip to do anything but cut rough, curvy lines in my nice clean
The knife and straightedge are for straight cuts across or along the
entire sheet. The rotozip with guidepoint bit is for electrical boxes
and door or window openings, it will cut a perfect line along the
window or door faster than you can run a knife along one side and
break it. As for boxes, there is just no comparison both in terms of
speed and in precision. A good guy with the rotozip will never have to
do any patching around an outlet.
You are so lucky to have things of your grandfather's. When my
grandmother moved out of their home years after my grandfather died, my
youngest half-sister sister took everything. That, in itself, wasn't so
bad, but when she divorced her first husband, he took most of it. When
her second husband divorced her, he took the rest. Now the real irony . .
. she has two daughters, I have three sons. Seems to me the
great-grandsons would have more use for his tools than
great-granddaughters (especially the ones in question). Oh, well.
My solution is to watch for estate sales and pick up what I can. My
greatest finds of this past year are an old saw with a carved handle which
appears to have the original blade ($5) and a pair of ice tongs ($16).
The ice tongs will become a towel holder on my patio. The saw has been
used but mostly admired. :-)
Sadly, since I live in town, there aren't that many good estate sales;
most don't have tools of any substance.
Gee, my first computer was state-of-the-art with dual disk drives. LOL
And very, very expensive compared to today's.
Two years later, when I bought the 10MB hard drive and could run more than
one program at once, I thought it was heaven!
Now my first flash drive holds 256 MB; the external hard drive . . . won't
even go there as I do video work where 5 minutes of raw video uses 1 GB of
space. Back in 1982 and 1983, we "home users" could not even begin to
imagine a hard drive of more than 800 GB, and that being small. LOL
How time flies, and technology moves forward.
I still recall driving from Windsor ON to Buffalo NY to look at a hard
drive. Hooked up to a Mac Plus, the thing came to life and plopped
itself on the desktop, the room gasped. I put my $795.00US down and
bought one on the spot. I waited for 3 weeks to get it. It was heaven.
I still have my first 128K Mac. WITH extra floppy drive.
sn 4016. I am NOT going to say what I paid for that (new) should my ex
ever read this and explain why she didn't get that swimming-pool that
year....(Wringing hands with glee) Yessir.. 128K of whopping RAM (more
in my watch now)
I'm happy with Panther also, but with my wife's XPpro on a big Dell...
not enough of a difference to matter. The biggest reason why my Mac is
still my #1 box, is that all my Filemaker RDBMS stuff and CAD docs are
accessed every day. But the days of having the best computer by miles
are gone. So I hung my smug face up next to my Fender Telecaster.
This coming April, this box (G3 B&W) will have been on and running for 4
years without a single crash... and I make it jump through hoops.
It went down with a couple of power failures (One big one a cpl of
summers back) but it righted itself right after the power came back on.
Not a virus or a worm...dead solid, flawless performance.
And as far as the wife's XPpro box at work is concerned? They have an IT
department that keeps the hospital humming. All is well.
*whispers* (psssst... she finishes her presentations off at home, MS
Powerpoint, on her Mac G-4 Powerbook.... and don't tell anybody, but
Bill Gates' 'Residential Compound' was designed on Macs...fact.)
Hell, if Mary Matlin and James Carville can live together, I can have a
PC and a Mac in my house, right?
Okay.. tea is ready...*poof*
It does seem odd now, doesn't it? $20 bucks a disk.
I wish there were someplace for me to sell the 8-inch floppies I have
here, a full box of them, and I'm talking storage box, probably 100+ disks
in it. I'll likely wind up cutting them in half and dumping them (they
have data from another secretarial service bureau obtained in a sale from
her to me). It'd be great to be able to wipe the disks and sell them, or
even give them away. I'm a horrible recycler and don't like tossing
things that can be used, especially if they fall under serious pollutant
Of course I have hundreds of 5-1/4s from my own business and many, many
dozens of 3-1/2s. Now, it's stacks of CDs. How times change.<g>
starting on DVDs for storage now
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