Raise your price range and you will be happier in the long run. Be prepared
to spend $750-$1000 and be done with it! spend less I will guarantee you
will be either upgrading parts of the saw you buy, (the fence perhaps), or
just simply replacing it all with yet another saw!
I went through this a few years ago and bought a Delta contractors saw. I am
pleased with the saw for the type of work I do and don't believe I will ever
replace it. The down side is that same saw in close to $1000 now.
I've read some of the other responses. Sure, if you want to wait a
while until you can spend $1000 and get a cabinet saw, that's good
advice. However, if you're like me, the budget is the budget and even
six months from now it's still going to be $500-600 because that's the
amount that you're willing to spend. If that's the case, go with a
contractor saw but be sure to get a name brand and investigate the
specifications carefully. Jet, Delta, Powermatic, General, Grizzly etc.
Check out the Grizzly G0444Z. You can get it for about $600 including
shipping. Google that model number for lots of discussions from me and
other folks. The fence alone will rock your world after using the
benchtop and 2 HP is enough for most of us.
There are a lot of very accomplished woodworkers in this group with
extremely well equipped shops that are perfectly happy and do
incredible work with a contractor saw. I suspect many of them used the
money they saved on another machine or some exotic hardwood.
Grizzly offers this in both a 220v 3 hp motor or the 2 hp 110v I would
think for my needs the 2 hp would be enough, or for the same price
should I go ahead and get the 220v 3 hp ?
Sure am glad I checked with you guys first and thanks to all of you
for the advice.....alot of money, but sounds like it will be worth it in
the long run.
Get the 3HP and don't look back. Do it right
and be done with it. I got the 3HP on my 1023SL.
With a good blade (like the Forrest WWII which I
finally sprung for), that saw goes through 8/4 oak
like "butter" (sorry).
I have the 3hp and am happy with it. Although I have a buddy who has the
2HP version and is more than happy with it. I think he just wimped out on
running the 220v. He does have some trouble keeping the breaker from
popping. More than reason enough for me to get the 3hp 220v version.
USED. I repeat, USED.
Whether you want to buy a $250 used contractors saw or a $600 used cabinet
saw depends on your budget and workshop.
I have bought a used table saw, radial arm saw, jointer, biscuit joiner, and
a whole mess of smaller shop tools. I am very satisfied with all of them.
(Sadly I had to buy a new planer; they just don't seem to be available used
in decent condition)
I have also bought 3 used houses, and even a used diamond in my wife's
engagement ring. Sounds cheap? Well she kinda enjoys it when everyone's
mouth drops open when they see it; and only she (and now all of you) know it
is used and cost 1/3rd the price of a new one.
Can't quite bring myself to buy a used car. The warranty seems more
important than the small price break.
As you can see, there are many replies. All good advice too.
I will take a 2HP single phase 220 volt saw over a 3HP 3-phase if the
2HP has a good fence and runs vibration-free and has a flat top.
Precision is more important to me than power.
A cabinet saw with a Biesemeyer is what I would buy. I may be wrong, but
it seems to me that a cabinet saw is easier to set up for dust
The contractor saws often have stamped steel wings.. or the open-webbed
type of cast iron wings. I don't like those. I absolutely hate the look
of the stands.
Which brand of cabinet saw? After all the stuff I have been reading from
this credible bunch in this news-group, I would not hesitate to buy a
Grizzly. Personally I'd buy a General, but that's because I'm a
flag-waving damn proud Canadian. In other words, don't listen to me.
General does build a quality product. No doubt it's worth that little
For What It's Worth.
I to am going to jump on the Grizzly band wagon here. I purchased mine
about 3 years ago ( a 1023s) and am very happy with it. I also had a tight
budget at the time and thought I could get a decent table saw for 300 to 400
dollars....heh, silly me. Then I found the wreck and read many of the same
replies you are getting now. Save a bit longer and get a good cabinet saw.
took me about 3 hours to assemble the Grizz. It also passed the nickel test
on the first start! And yes, you can believe Grizzly's marketing.
I do not think ya even need to listen to Grizzly's marketing. You can just
listen from their customers. I have had nothing but the best service every
time I have dealt with Grizzly. They do seem to come as a highly respected
outfit as well.
To be honest, I have not heard a bad word about them (although I am sure
there are some out there).
I have three items from them over 500lbs each. All three made it here the
next day after ordering. I returned one freight item and it was as painless
as possible, actually almost a joy after dealing with some other outfits.
I was in the same spot a few years ago; the craftsman wouldn't do anymore. I
picked up a used Unisaw from a cabinet shop closing down. Best thing I ever
did for my shop. I have also had good luck with Grizzly, so just get the
best you can afford at the time. Look for used equipment, you may find a
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