Need recommendations for pneumatic construction stapler

[krw]

Screws/lags for rails to posts. Ringshank siding/fencing nails for slats to rails.

[Leon]

Well steel posts do not rot like cedar and treated do in clay soil along the gulf coast. And 2x4 and 6" pickets is standard fare here also.

Yes, I shoot ring shank galvanized nails out of my framing nailer.

[Leon]

I at one time used deck screws to attach rails to the posts but that was when I was using a hammer for everything. A friend and I probably removed and build 20 fences way back when and his framing nailer cut the work time by 1/2 to 2/3's. This was 3 rail fences Plus a rot board at the bottom. I will never build another fence with out a rot board. It is huge time saver and keeps every thing level, providing the rot board is level. One of us could put 6 nails into a picket almost as fast as the other one of us could position the next picket and insure it was plum. Neither of us were ever really waiting on the other to complete our task.

[DerbyDad03]

A few years ago I needed a new snowblower. (Google it if you don't know what those are ;-) )

I wanted an Ariens, which can be bought at HD or at independents for the same price, since Ariens sets the price. I was talking to the guy at one of the independents and he said "We do the warranty work for HD. Besides the extra time to get the machine from them and back to them, which machines do you think we work on first, our customer's or their's?"

I bought it from the indy.

[krw]

I generally try not to shoot nails into steel posts. ;-)

I've never seen them.

[krw]

What's a "rot board"? Just a spacer to keep the picket off the ground?

[Terry Coombs]

  Ring shanks are pretty common in collated nails ... just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean squat . As far as shooting nails into steel , it's actually pretty common . Not with a pneumatic unit of course , for that I use a powder actuated tool .

[krw]

Collated nails, sure, I use them in my siding/fencing nailer. But for a framing nailer?

[Terry Coombs]

  I built what the customer wanted . He's payin' for it , I'm doing what he wants - within reason and the law . I also rebuilt his deck , and did a lot of other small jobs for him . Had several customers in that circle of friends , and they all lived in that same general neighborhood . A handyman that has multiple skills can pretty much write his own ticket in some places . North Midtown Memphis is one of them . Word gets out and a guy can make a decent living doing home repairs .

[Terry Coombs]

Just what kind of nails were you expecting ? These are full round head nails and come in 21° strips held together with a plastic material . Others are 30° clip heads and held together in a strip with strips of paper . The ones for my P-C finish nailers are a straight strip held together with some kind of glue . What are you calling collated nails , coils held with wire ?

[-MIKE-]

I have 2 or 3 sizes in my collection. Have you ever googled anything? :-p

[Leon]

Yeah! but steel posts rarely have to be replaced. Not so with wood posts "down here". If the pickets are about toast, the posts will not generally last much longer. It is a bad idea to replace only pickets and rails even if the posts seem sound. The posts poop out 3~5 years later. ;~(

IIRC I have to buy from a trades store.

[Leon]

On 3/9/2018 10:09 PM, [e-mail] wrote: Snip

[Leon]

Pretty much, I use a 5/4 treated deck board. If it rots it is much easier and less expensive to replace than 16+ pickets.

I place the rot board on the ground, level, and attach to the front face of the post. Then the bottom 2x4 rail directly behind between the posts and 2.5" above the rot board. The rail's bottom is 1" below the top of the rot board. I put a nail or two through the face of the rot board into the bottom 2x4 rail to keep them from separating should one want to bow. Then a mid 2x4 rail between the posts and a top 2x4 rail on top of the posts. Pickets stand on the top edge of the rot board.

[Leon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we call them "Lawn Mowers" down here. :~)

I prefer buying from the servicer.

[Terry Coombs]

  That's the same type nails my gun uses . A lot of people don't like the weight of the HF gun , but in many cases that added weight is an asset . I've used a lot of guns over the years , and find that the reduced felt recoil is a benefit - to me . Spend a day in a commercial cabinet shop shooting boxes together with 16ga 1/2" crown staples . You'll soon find yourself reaching for the heavier gun ...

[krw]

Yes, or plastic. I've never seen ringshank sticks for framing nailers.

[krw]

I _never_ use Google for anything, no. ;-) I generally only search for things I'm looking to buy. I've never seen them when perusing the Borg, though.

[krw]

I have no doubt about that. It's certainly not unique to TN. It's probably pretty universal, at least in places where there is an active economy.

[Terry Coombs]

  Likely because you've never looked .