"BladeStop™ improves band saw safety, with the ability to stop a
bandsaw blade within a fraction of a second from when contact is made
with the operator, reducing serious band saw blade injuries.
BladeStop™ mechanically stops the bandsaw blade when the control unit
determines a person has come in contact with the blade -- stopping
the blade operation within 9 milliseconds of sensing a person's
finger or hand!"
I have to say, I am sorry to see that.
It means that all over the internet, in a high concentration here, and at t
he old men's table at Woodcraft the teeth gnashing will start.
Screams of civil rights violations, chest thumping of those declaring that
their generation had no guards or safety devices and they were fine, the pa
ranoids buying saws now before the nanny state Commie/weenies make safety s
ome kind of bullshit issue... all of it.
Ready for the first 250 thread here for a long, long time. Nothing like ge
tting a good bitch on to fire one up, though.
replying to Spalted Walt, Ernesto wrote:
I recently read Max Tegmark's new book "Life 3.0" and have read others by Ray
Kurzweil and other physicists and engineers that touch on this subject. As a
result I know that everything in this video is accurate and disturbingly likely.
I don't believe those who are never content with the amount of power and wealth
they have will refrain from developing this technology, especially because in
their ignorance and arrogance they will mistakenly believe they will be able to
control it once they have it. As such, I don't think the efforts to restrict and
guide the development of AI will be successful in keeping us safe from the dark
side of strong AI.
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 10:04:43 AM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
I'm not sure how this will work out on usenet, but I'm going to present
a scenario and ask for an answer. After some amount of time, maybe 48 hours,
since tomorrow is Thanksgiving, I'll expand on that scenario and ask for
Trust me, this will eventually lead back to technology, AI and most
In the following scenario you must assume that all options have been
considered and narrowed down to only 2. Please just accept that the
situation is as stated and that you only have 2 choices. If we get into
"Well, in a real life situation, you'd have to factor in this, that and
the other thing" we'll never get through this exercise.
5 workers are standing on the railroad tracks. A train is heading in their
direction. They have no escape route. If the train continues down the tracks,
it will most assuredly kill them all.
You are standing next to the lever that will switch the train to another
track before it reaches the workers. On the other track is a lone worker,
also with no escape route.
You have 2, and only 2, options. If you do nothing, all 5 workers will
be killed. If you pull the lever, only 1 worker will be killed.
Which option do you choose?
As my school bus driver explained nearly 50 years ago, the lessor of evils
in this case would be to kill the lone worker... In the case of the bus, it
would be to run over a kid on the side of the road rather than have a
head-on collision with a large truck.
While troubling as a kid it made sense then and it still makes sense...
Just to throw this in: In real life a speeding train suddenly and
unknowingly switching tracks is not a good thing... hundreds could be killed
or injured if it were a passenger train!
Well I have mentioned this before, and it goes back to comments I have
made in the past about decision making. It seems the majority here use
emotional over rational thinking to come up with a decision.
It was said you only have two choices and who these people are or might
be is not a consideration. You can't make a rational decision with
what-if's. You only have two options, kill 5 or kill 1. Rational for
me says save 5, for the rest of you that are bringing in scenarios past
what should be considered will waste too much time and you end up with a
kill before you decide what to do.
Rational thinking would state that trains run on a schedule, the
switch would be locked, and for better or worse the five were not
supposed to be there in the first place.
So how can I make a decision more rational than the scheduler, even if
I had the key to the lock.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 7:12:18 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
I tried, I really tried:
"Please just accept that the situation is as stated and that you only have
2 choices. If we get into "Well, in a real life situation, you'd have to
factor in this, that and the other thing" we'll never get through this
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