I think you missed the point -- I did figure it out.
However, I wanted to achieve two goals with this post:
1. Inform others who might be misled
2. Indirectly influence Amazon if such posts cause enough potential
buyers to either look otherwise or to speak up themselves.
As you say, "Life is too short" to argue about this... If you disagree
with my thinking, the as you say "Move on. Next" post "please".
He wasn't complaining necessarily - just giving a heads-up about some
snakey marketing techniques. Yes, the consumer eventually pays all
costs, but if Amazon listed an item all summer at $100 with free
shipping, then it's hardly a price cut if they now sell it at $90 with a
$15 shipping fee.
Don't confuse the price of the product Amazon is selling with what the
transaction will cost you when shipping, handling, tax, are added in. From
my view as a consumer, price and cost are not the same thing.
I'm not a big fan of Amazon, but don't hold them responsible for the cost of
Any tools or woods purchased or any time or money spent in the pursuit of
woodworking that employs our evolutionary advantage of opposing thumbs needs
no further justification.
I think you totally missed my point. I am not holding them responsible
for anything -- they can say what they want and charge what they want
(as long as they are not violating some law).
I was just pointing out that their marketing was misleading if not
deceptive (though almost certainly not illegal) -- goal was to inform
others and perhaps indirectly influence Amazon to avoid such
I've never learned anything from someone who agreed with me.
Thanks for your response. I think we probably agree, but I may not have
made my point clear. Clearly any decision on where to buy a tool or
anything, should be based on the total cost to you at the location where you
want it and that total cost is not just on the price of the product.
When we consumers consider a purchasing decision, we must weigh Internet
purchasing tax-free with shipping and handling and local delivery charges
added versus local purchase without shipping and handling to sales tax
added. Then we factor in connivance, after sales service and other key but
sometimes forgotten charges. Then we can determine the total cost. If we
elect not to do these things, then Pogo may have been right when he said,
"we have met the enemy and they is us."
The central point you make, that we should all be astute consumers is very
valuable. I was afraid that some of the responses were just Amazon/Tool
Local impact: Our refrigerator is on its way out. We are shopping for a
new one. Surprise! The sell price does not include delivery and
installation. No dealer has yet told me about those charges until I asked.
Thanks for the warning.
For the "life is too short," "buy somewhere else" guys, please try to
take a step back, and look at your own advice. If "life is too short,"
why must consumers have to waste such valuable time *the first time*
ferreting out information purposely made as obscure and misleading as
possible in order to determine that you should "buy somewhere else" the
OK, now we know what Amazon.com is doing. That's one out of how many
more to go?
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