Maybe a "new" shop tip.

Good idea until you need to drill pocket holes for 2x stock, then you want a longer bit.

I never use 2 x stock, not only that, wouldn't the 2x stock still sit in the same place in the jig? I don't have the fancy Kreg, just the simple one.

An interesting solution. Is the helper someone who shows an interest in the work, or just a body earning some bucks? If it's the former he probably should be taught to let the tools do the work and to clear out the holes rather than forcing it. Maybe a financial penalty or incentive? Normally I'd say a smack to the back of the head, but this is a family newsgroup. ;)

Do you happen to have a cutoff laying around about 2"x2"x36"? If so, the proper application of that cutoff to said helper should alleviate the problem. My have to do this twice but seldom does it take more than that.

He shows some good interest and potential, but for some reason, everyone that ever helped me out, including my dad, always feels the need to slam through the wood when drilling pocket holes. I try to tell them to take it easy, but it never works. I usually keep my "good bit" marked with a sharpie, that way he knows to put the crappy one in before he starts... hmmmmmm maybe another good tip!

That was almost the solution the other day when a 1/2 full can of Sherwin Williams BAC wiping stain hit the floor, spilling and splashing all over the router station and up the walls.....

| "Rick's Cabinet Shop" wrote in | message news:ygb2h.4099$B44.3355@trndny07...

|| My helper has a tendency to push really hard on the drill when || drilling pocket holes in a kreg jig. The next thing I know, all || the pocket holes are too deep because he pushed the stop collar || down the shaft of the drill bit. Upon finding this out AGAIN this || morning, I realized I could cut about 3/4" off the bottom of the || drill bit so there was no bit left between the collar and the || chuck of the drill. Now there's no way the collar will slide up || the bit and make the holes too deep. I used to grind a small flat || spot on the bits for the set screw, but there would still be play || in that idea if I didn't make the slot deep enough. || || Just thought it might help someone with similar problems | | | Good idea until you need to drill pocket holes for 2x stock, then | you want a longer bit.

Hmm. I keep two bits set up with stop collars - one for 3/4" stock and one for 2x stock.

I haven't had a problem with the collars slipping; but wonder if a smear of Loc-Tite (whatever the weakest type is) between the bit and the collar might help prevent the problem...

-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA

How about explaining to him how you'll be helping him get started in the business. Any time he needs a special tool you'll buy it for him and deduct it from his paycheck. The tools are his to keep when he leaves.

You could cut a piece of skinny pvc tubing just long enough to go between the chuck and the collar. That way, it wouldn't move. And it would be easier to cut than the bit.

brian

They shoot horses don't they???

On Nov 1, 9:11 pm, "RicodJour" wrote: [snip]How about explaining to him how you'll be helping him get started in

You bad! *G*

There's an extension block that you can attach to the front of the jig. The point being the screw ends up in the middle of the stock. But the hell with that, the few times I've put a pocket screw in something thicker than 3/4 I left the jig and bit setting alone.

I did have the collar slip on me once when I first got the jig. I hate to overtighten those allen head screws cuz the damn wrench always ends up getting stuck. Never happened again. I did think to mark the bit behind the collar so I could see if it slipped, but never got around to it.

-Leuf