Not unless the stuff in my firewood pile has seen the inside of a kiln. :-)
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Yes. Whether that translates to safe for the animal I can't answer as
don't know what it takes to make it so...
Of course, it's also quite possible the secondary wood is something like
poplar or other "white wood". Pine these days is actually fairly
expensive relative to some alternatives.
The futon is about 12 years old, if that makes a diff. I need a new digital
cam or else I've have posted a pic link. It seems as though the jury is
still out on whether it is safe. The sites I see say kiln dried whenever
they specify. I haven't seen any that say pine is OK if it has been sitting
around for awhile.
Thanks for all the thoughts, and no I'm NOT trolling! :)
But they do sometimes. Here is a site:
Chinchillas need chew toys to keep their teeth from becoming too long. Non
treated kiln-dried white pinewood pieces are good for this.
Another site says that fruit tree wood is poisonous to chins, but untreated
kiln-dried white pine is the best.
So, there is plenty of discussion about kiln-dried other than for shavings.
I think you will find that the kiln dried caveat probably
came from someone's experience using fresh material (whole
ground up tree limbs that include bark, needles and lots of
resin. It is unlikely that your wood frame contains enough
resin to affect the animal. More likely is that he weakens
the frame and you sit down and crush him.
I'll bet the culpret is turpenies. The lignens and other resins in
pine are very thermaly stablen and would not undergo chemical change in
a kiln. Some turpentine would be distilled off in a kiln at 180 F.
The same process would occure at room temperature over a few years.
Freshly cut (or machined as in shaveings) pine might be another thing.
I will look up a MSDS for turpentine and get back to you with a LD50.
I was wrong on the turpentine bet. The LD50 (the amount it takes to
kill 50% of the test animals) for rats is 3700 - 5000mg/Kg. That means
that of rats eating about 0.4% of their body weight of pure turpentine
50% of them will die. Since even in fresh pine there isn't much
turpentine unless you get stumps of "fat pine", that it is impossible
for a rat to die of turpentine poisoning. Chins are very close cousins
of rats. If pine is toxic, then it aint turpentine.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:03:24 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Lawrence
Thinking about this I'd worry more about the impact of the finish than
the wood on the chinchilla's delicate little tummy.
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