Harbor Freight Bar Clamp #60539 Review

[Electric Comet]

not disagreeing with the symptoms and retail across the board is hurting badly

we are heading into a major correction

i think many of the empty stores would have become empty without amazon

some questions to ponder

who let them operate with out charging sales tax for so long i think they charge sales tax now

who let them ship for free someone has to pay for the cost to ship maybe amazon absorbed some of it but usps and others must have been bullied into absorbing the costs too

not a level playing field for sure and the small business cannot compete when the competition gets subsidized to ship free and gets sweetheart deals to open new warehouses or new hqs

[pyotr filipivich]

Electric Comet on Mon, 22 Jan 2018

11:52:16 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Amazon charges $9 a month for "free" shipping.

They may have cut a deal with UPS/USPS for a discount, but they would not be the first.

[krw]

No, Prime is more than $9 (I think it just went up to $13) but they do free shipping on orders greater than $50, also.

Yes, there are reports that they have a real sweetheart deal with USPS, subsidized by everyone in the US.

[Electric Comet]

is that the prime subscription

i was thinking more of the spend this much and get free shipping

some independent sellers actually bear the cost which is crazy you are competing for pennies or at a loss

they also convinced some independents to ship their product to an amazon warehouse then later they began charging them for storing them in the warehouse

extorting just like a criminal organization

maybe they did and maybe they are not the first but nothing is free

someone is bearing that cost for usps it is most likely the tax payer and for ups maybe the unions and employees bear that or maybe there are tax breaks for ups and so once again the tax payer aborbs the cost

[krw]

Even with punctuation, the above wouldn't make any sense.

Do you not understand the concept of competition? If you don't want to sell on Prime or include the cost of shipping in your sales price, don't. If you don't want to sell on Amazon, don't. You're free to run your business as you see fit.

Because it saves them money. Duh. Come on. Think! If it doesn't save them money, they wouldn't do it.

Utter nonsense.

Of course not. You're paying in the cost of the product.

The unions are going to pay for Amazon to ship stuff? You're funny!

[DerbyDad03]

What kind of correction? In the stock market?

Please explain what you see that leads you to believe that.

Is that a standalone statement or is it supposed to be connected to your "correction prediction"? If the statements are connected, please explain why you think empty stores are going to lead to a "correction", after you explain what type of correction you are talking about and why you expect one.

They've always charged sales tax. It depends on the type of sale and the location of where the item is being shipped. When they don't charge tax, it's on the purchaser to pay it.

Read up on "use tax".

You obviously don't know how "free shipping" actually works. You, I and everyone else who buys stuff on line are paying for it.

Any business that can prove (well, at least convince them) that they will substantially improve the local economy can get a sweetheart deal. Sports stadiums, headquarters that brings people to hotels and restaurants, etc. I'm not saying it's 100% right, but you can't just blame Amazon when it happens with many different types of businesses.

[-MIKE-]

It's a lot more than just free shipping. There's a lot of online content available. Also, cheaper to pay by the year.

They may be the only thing besides junk mail keeping the USPS afloat.

[krw]

All correct. I was responding to the letter of the post.

The only thing keeping them afloat is the taxpayer.

[woodchucker]

True many of the big box stores already did the major damage.

There's no free shipping. Look at the prime price, it's much higher sometimes double the price of other vendors through Amazon. So prime is often higher priced to cover shipping. If you are not a prime customer and reach the free shipping, you are paying for it, it's built into the cost.

Now Amazon is considering eliminating them. They have Jets, Trucks.. etc.

[-MIKE-]

I have not found that to be the case. Do you have any examples? Double the price? Really? A good deal of the Prime products are stored at their "local" warehouses which is one reason the shipping cost can be so low-- it's already close to you.

[pyotr filipivich]

[e-mail] on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:38:18 -0500 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

My lake of clarity. I pay by the year, so It works out to $9 a month for me, including tax.

And this is not exactly news.

As I explained to a friend years ago - all you have to do is hired a couple hundred thousand people, not die, and be able to plunk down the cash to hire consultants at a $100,000 a shot, and you too can get all sorts of tax breaks.

[pyotr filipivich]

[e-mail] on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:11:21 -0500 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

That is the way it has been since it was a Federal Agency and the largest employer in the land.

[Scott Lurndal]

Annual prime is $99 ($8.25/mo). The price for monthly did just go up, but annual stayed the same.

Reports from someone credible? The Drumpf doesn't qualify.

[Electric Comet]

that and the change of hands of a lot of real estate upward to the small percentage that already owned so much during the last bust

then once they own it they either leave those properties empty or ask rents that are unsustainable and even take a portion of net profits from the small retailers as part of the rent or lease

no there is free shipping on amazon without prime

you spend over some amount and then the free shipping kicks in not for all products as not all sellers offer it because it comes out of the pocket of the seller

have you sold a lot on amazon

trying to but remains to be seen

[woodchucker]

They didn't always. NJ forced them to.

+1 yep, nothing is really free.

[krw]

The USPS has *always* been a federal agency but it has not always had a mandate to pay for its way. If it can't meet its obligations, it's time to shut it down.

[krw]

The phrase was $9 per month. He didn't say it was $99/yr. There is a difference.

Don't be stupid. You won't believe anything I find, so look it up yourself. It's pretty simple, though I'm sure you'll find some leftist site that will blame it on Trump. Idiot.

[krw]

It's the "last mile" that they need USPS for (note that FedEx uses the USPS the same way). They've already set up their distribution centers near USPS sorting facilities so they can inject the parcels directly into the processing stream, saving half the shipping.

[pyotr filipivich]

Electric Comet on Mon, 22 Jan 2018

17:47:58 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Yep. Not sure how it works out practically (am I buying more often because of "free" shopping, vs "saving up purchases" to qualify for "free" shipping.?).

[pyotr filipivich]

woodchucker on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:00:23 -0500 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Prime is now a wonderful bundle of services. Not only can you get streaming movies, or music or ebooks, but it also includes shipping of actual physical media. Like books, records and DVDs.