Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 5:48pm (EDT-3) snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (Phil Crow) asks: <snip> How far is Virginia Tech from Cleveland, anyway?
Don't I have to get shots, a travel visa, or something, to go to Virginia?
JOAT The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so they invented Mercy.
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JOAT asks:
Tarheels just have to leave hostages.
Charlie Self "Ambidextrous, adj.: Able to pick with equal skill a right-hand pocket or a left." Ambrose Bierce
Tue, Apr 20, 2004, 2:24pm (EDT+4) snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) claims: Tarheels just have to leave hostages.
Is that to get in, or out, of Virginia?
JOAT The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so they invented Mercy.
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To make sure they go back. :-)
True enough, but this is the 21st century, so I get a few more years of free mowing while I sit back with a beer and watch my little princess sweat her ass off behind the mower. :)
Either way, they'll both be gone right about the time I'm starting to really get creaky in the knees.
That's when I'm going to buy a huge tank full of Round-Up, nuke everything, and put down green astroturf. :)
Those critters do have a demonic look, don't they? It's the weird eyes.
I know lotsa people with goats. Usually people with big spreads and fences though.
Silvan responds:
I wonoder...it is said that people come to resemble their pets. Bad enough to look like a pit bull, but a goat....
And what a voice!
Charlie Self "Ambidextrous, adj.: Able to pick with equal skill a right-hand pocket or a left." Ambrose Bierce
Wed, Apr 21, 2004, 9:09am snipped-for-privacy@users.sourceforge.net (Silvan) says: <snip> Either way, they'll both be gone right about the time I'm starting to really get creaky in the knees.<snip>
When I was a kid, we had a big lawn from the start. And, my old man kept enlarging it. Push mower, would take me 4 hours of steady work to mow it, only stopping to refill the tank. When I went in the Army, he bought a riding mower, and then my mother mowed it. Big mower, pull the throttle down, and you could probably mow the whole lawn in half an hour, only slowing down on turns. I hate mowing a lawn.
JOAT The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so they invented Mercy.
- Unknown
You're thinking of Pennslvania.
Yeah, if only. :)
Free labor is only half the battle. Just the slab alone is more than I really want to even think about. Readymix is hella expensive, but Quickrete is hella expensive. I looked at doing a little 8' x 8' slab to go under my plastic junk shed, and it was going to cost around $200 IIRC. Scale that up to 400 sq. ft. and it looks like about $1200 for the concrete and fixins alone. Ugh.
My budget is about $7.50. I don't think this is gonna fly anytime soon, unless one of you Wreckers has figured out how to crap concrete? :)
Hrm... If you wanna toss some wire in my yard as you drive by, I won't object. I'll need it someday, and wire doesn't rot.
But it's going to be several years before any of this comes anywhere close to happening. Dreaming is one thing, but this is all just a big dream right now. It's at least three years before I'm in a position to even start making serious plans. Hafta take a look around myself then and see where I am.
Thanks for everybody's thoughts though. If wishes were workshops than Wreckers would all have 50,000 sq. ft. and a Triple Unisaurus Maximus.
you don't buy this much by the bag, but by the cubic yard mixed in a big truck. it's a LOT cheaper that way. you just have to have the manpower (personpower?) available to hump it where it needs to go as a pumper truck is a bunch of money.
or just plot out the mow path and watch the mower sweat its *own* ass off...
... in the entryway ... <g>
-- Mark
Can you make friends with a local cement company? Lots of times there's a little left in the truck when the customer's forms are filled. It may take awhile at a half yard a throw but the price is right. ;-)
-- Mark
That's what I said too. Excuse me while I go mow the lawn...
astroturf will require maintenance -- go with river rock or pea gravel.
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I think (hope?) your scale factor was too high. IIRC, the cost of the last readymix I bought (about 2 yards) was mostly delivery charges. That portion that was per yard concrete cost would scale, but the delivery charge should be constant and shouldn't scale with the size of the slab. Very rough and dirty estimating on my part, but 400 sq ft would equate to approximately 5 yds of concrete which should run somewhere in the $500 - $600 range delivered. Of course your local costs could be wildly different from what we see here.
This subject sparks my interest because I am fairly early in the planning stages of a combination equipment shed, storage building, woodshop enlargement that will total about 1200 sq ft with about 150 feet of footings and foundation wall. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 35 yds of concrete. At your $200/yd figure, I'd be looking at about $7K just for the concrete. I don't have quotes yet, but that's a lot more than I'm expecting..
Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA
Hey, I hope I'm wrong too. :) You're almost certainly right about how I was being too simplistic in scaling it up that way.
I know it works that way with gravel. $75 for one ton, or $100 for 10 tons.
You priced Round-Up too, didja? <sigh>
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