I have some cub scouts coming over later this week for a a couple of
woodworking projects (picture frame, whistle and a recipe holder). I
got some jigs set up and I think the cutting and nailing will be fine
- I was just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on finishing with
uncured glue so that I can send the projects home on the same night.
most of the parts will be nailed/screwed and glued.
I was thinking a wiped on oil might be easy for them to apply, but
think it might turn into a mess if the glue is not dried. Any
thoughts? Maybe a different kind of glue? (I think epoxies,
Cyanoacrylate, and poly's would all have their own disadvantages for
kids to work with(
You might try one of the low temp glue guns for your adhesive.
Somewhere back in my mind is a picture of a girl scout troop using
them to make scrapbooks. The scrapbooks were made and finished in a
Give it a dry run with your own young scout and see how it goes.
I can only imagine the fun of a lot of little boys squirting glue out
of a "gun".
I wouldn't worry about the glue not drying under a finish. If the are
nailed or screwed so they will hold together they are good to go.
I would get a can of zinseer bullseye shellac. Pretty much non-toxic
and dries in 5 minutes if you put it on thin. You could even get some
alcohol and thin it down a bit and it will dry even faster. You could
have them sand the first coat with 400 and do a second. Just apply
very thin coats. Give each scout a dixie cup 1/2 full and one of those
50 cent 1 1/2" brushes.
I went with the shellac - shouldn't have worried about the drying
issue. It was pretty busy in my garage this evening . . we got the
woodwork done, but didn't get to the finishing . . next weeks
project. Now I'm relaxing and having a beer. The kids had fun and
the only injury was one of the dads when a kid slipped with a
Thanks for the info.
Ouch on the screwdriver. One good lesson I always give is about sharp
tools. It doesn't really relate to the screwdriver accident but it
does remind me of the safety issue.
Whenever I pick up a sharp chisel especially, but any sharp tool. Or
if I have them out on the table, I remind my self not to try and catch
them if they slip out of my hand or get bumped off the table. Grabbing
them can be dangerous. That little reminder always keeps me thinking
"slow and safe".
Fun fact... You can tint the shellac with Transtint liquid dyes. Reds,
oranges, browns or even blackish. Just need to be more careful about
overlap to get an even color. The kids might like that little bit of
customization. Do one drop at a time and test the color. Mix and match
and all the mistakes just come out brown ;^) Of course one little
spill of the dye and the kid will have a brown hand for weeks. Maybe
better to go natural.
I do samples all the time...a quick wipe with some Minwax-type stain
(let it set for a bit) works with a couple of coats of spray
lacquer...wood glue should set up within 15 or 20 minutes and if it's
nailed too it should be fine to go over with stain or, like the
previous poster said, Krylon (same cavaet, tho!). Make sure the excess
glue is wiped off pretty quickly so just a little sanding will get rid
of the remaining residue...especially if you're staining. Paint is
best here...glue residue then is not much of an issue.
I don't think it would be a problem if mechanical fastners are doing
most of the holding.
I like oil finishes myself for the simplicity. You might want to use
something like Tru Oil though, which dries really fast (2 hours or
less). If that sounds interesting, you should experiment with it a
bit first to see how it dries. In particular take care not to apply
it too thick, as that can leave a rough surface after it cures.
I can easily imagine a number of kids getting their fingers stuck
together if they're using CA glue. 5 minute epoxy would set quickly,
but you'd likely need to be mixing up a lot of small bathces for them and then
they'd have to apply it with a small stick or spreader. I'm not fond of
the polyurethane/foaming glues.
So it does seem like something simple like Elmer's white glue would
be the way to go. The only issue that comes to mind here is making
sure they don't squeeze out too much and make a big mess of things.
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