Cutting up some 3/4" plywood on the TS into 16" squares for a daughter's
school project. Absentmindedly, I ran a piece through using the fence - for
a crosscut. The blade picked that sucker up and tossed it at a hundred
miles an hour into me (well, it felt that fast..). Hit me in the lower left
abdomen just inside from the hip bone. Got a big nasty bruise and two
bloody scrapes. I had jeans on, and it ripped a hole in them. I shudder to
think about the damage to me if it had hit a little closer to center.......
My very adequate crosscut sled was leaning against the wall 6 feet away....
Glad to hear you weren't hurt worse, but I'm a little confused on what
you consider "cross-cutting" on plywood that is 16" square. Sounds like
you were either working without a splitter or standing in the wrong place.
Bob I think you might want to brush up on your technique. You should have
not have had any problem making that cut. I do cuts like that all the time.
You must be sure that the piece stays flat against the fence and that you
hold the piece down.
Anyway it is good to hear that you came through OK.
I agree with the others here. It isn't the cut that caused this. It is
either the table saw or the tool operator. Check everything for square on
the saw, and otherwise brush up on your technique. There is nothing wrong
with using the fence for cross cutting per se, but when also using the miter
guage to make the cross cuts then it becomes a good idea to avoid doing so.
I think he is fessing up to opperator error.
I let the wood twist a hair at the end of the cut (without a splitter and
without anything pushing down on the wood) and the blade caught the board an
threw it back at me. It not only hurt, but I had a lot of work to do to
replace the ruined board.
Now I use either a splitter or a Gripper; either would have prevented the
Agreed here, plywood is neither crosscut nor ripped- the grain goes
Yes, there is. It's dangerous, and bad advice- you can get away with
something a hundred times, but that doesn't make it okay when you get
a piece of timber lodged in your stomach the 101st time. In the
context of plywood, it doesn't matter, but you are not cross-cutting
in that situation.
Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 9:17pm (EST-1) email@example.com
<snip> Hit me <snip>
What I would like to know is, with all the tales of kickback on
here, why is it people still stand where they'll get hit if it happens?
Any plan is bad which is incapable of modification.
- Publilius Syrus
I for one don't. At least, not after the first time it happened to me.
Long before I discovered rec.wooddorking, I bought a table saw, and did
essentially the same thing.
Which I suspect made me feel just as dumb as Mark did. :)
Now, I stand off to the right hand side if possible. And I don't use the
fence and the miter gauge at the same time.
I always stand to the left of the blade and that is the way I was taught.
Now I'm wondering why you both stand to the right? The switch in on the
left on my Delta ts, too. A buddy's Dad also stood to the left and had his
emergency switch on a pole to the left as well. I wonder if he was a Lefty?
Depends on what you are cutting. Ripping an 8" board down the middle, yes,
on the left.
Cutting a 36" x 36" sheet of plywood down to 24", I'm on the right as there
is lots of room between me and the fence.
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 04:51:48 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org (J T)
You don't know where it is going to go. I had a hunk fly out sideways
a few weeks ago. The tooth marks on the wood were almost a perfect
1/4 circle from one corner to the opposite corner. It was my fault
for crosscuting with the rip fence, but it certainly wasn't a
predictable path that the piece took.
...and without even picking up that crosscut sled, all you had to do was
remove or simply move that rip fence away from the stock. Rip fence and
crosscuts are a guarantee of a kickback. Shame on you.
You are correct in that I assumed he meant he was using both the miter gauge
and the rip fence. That owes to what I hear people here refer to as a cross
cut - cutting with a miter or a sled. There was a discussion here not so
long ago that created the impression that the use of that term implied using
either a miter gauge or a cross cut sled. The OP even mentioned a cross cut
sled so, I just merrily followed down that path. Simply using a rip fence
to perform a cross cut (assuming a piece of wood that *can* really be cross
cut) does not pose an inherent problem.
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:10:13 -0700, Mark & Juanita
I picture a cross cut as cutting across the narrow end of a board,
like cutting an 8' 2x5 into 2 4' pieces..
then again, I think of ripping as cutting the 2x4 into 2 2x2x8'
pieces, and his piece of plywood was square...
there goes my concept of "cross cutting" all to hell!!
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