David Marks

Shortly after Christmas ("The Holidays" for the PC crowd) my wife went out and bought a HDTV Television (that cagey ole broad knows when the deals are happening).

It's not very big, as these things go, being only a 27" version but anything much bigger wouldn't have fit so good in our tiny little living room.

So we get it and I hook it up and fire it up - then she tells me it won't work right without the cable company coming out and gouging us for more money - so I waited.

Cable guy comes and hooks up the box interface to their office and my wallet - and I wait.

What I'm waiting for is the DIY Network, sose I can cast an eyeball on this David Marks fella that I've been reading so much about here on the Wreck.

Finally, the kids are done playing with the thing and watching all of the four thousand kids channels that come with the service - I'm done waiting.

Yesterday morning I punched up the DIY channel and watched a couple of Mr. Marks' programs, that ran back to back.

I have to confess, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

He had a brad nailer sitting on his workbench, just like Norm does.

Although I don't know anything about the man, he seemed like he came from a pure shop background or an art school background, because the work that he was doing had a more elevated design ethic than Norm's usual stuff.

Norm comes from being a carpenter, which is how I came to making furniture, and he tends to copy existing pieces, rather than starting from his own on paper.

Marks looks like he favors studio furniture trends over traditional styles, but hell, I've only seen two shows.

His techniques didn't seem wildly divergent from those of any decent mechanic - I was expecting something on the order of Toshio Odate.

His shop didn't look much different from mine, saving the aircraft carrier that was taking up way too much shop space - I'd trade that for Norm's Timesaver in a heartbeat.

I'll keep watching.

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Yeah, imagine that. His shop doesn't look that much different from yours or mine... What, you don't have the 48" wide sanding machine next to your dedicated pocket hole machine?

Both men are talented, both shows have value. I like Marks as he is a bit more realistic with the tools available to him, er me. Norm has a huge financial backing, hence all the cool tools, admittedly, ones I most likely will never be able to afford. But that doesn't make him a bad guy. Maybe a better business man, but not a bad guy.

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Markndawoods

DJM definitley has a more "artistic" approach than Norm ... after all, this is New Jersey moved to CaliforniO.

I'd also suspect that much of what he does on TV is dumbed down for 'doofus americanus', considering the source is the DIY channel.

However, his TV projects do seem to have at least a twist, or detail, often subtle, that takes him out of the realm of the ordinary mechanic, IMO.

No way. but I would say, relatively speaking, he's the best on TV thus far.

He's got the shop space for it ... there is much more shop than you see. An episode deals with his shop, DC and wood shed. And his wood stash is definitely the mark of a serious woodworker.

Very few of us get an opportunity to be exposed to an elevated level of woodworking except through TV. Even if DJM's is not of the highest, I still enjoy his program for that aspect.

Although I definitely don't consider him the holy grail., he does offer an opportunity to see a bit more artistic approach doing things than what has gone before.

Besides, how much of the family jewels/secrets would you want to give away between now and the bloom fading on the rose, as it always does?

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Swingman

Then let me put DJM into a perspective you'll understand, TW: ... it's like Leland Sklar playing plain ole 'eat shit' I V bass behind James Taylor, then, every once in a while, sneaking in one of those tasty little trademark licks that says unequivocally, "let there be no doubt that I can do it, but I damn sure don't get paid to do it all the time."

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Swingman

I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep watching.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.

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Ya know, Swing, we need a guy like Alan Lomax was, to go out and see what the small one-off shops are doing and report back to us.

It would be a worthwhile endeavor.

watson - who feels too old to volunteer - unless there's good money in it.

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Well, a "get down" hell yes! ... or James Jamerson for that matter.

Not too shabby, either.

... but Leland is sneaky in that you never think he has any chops til they hit you between the ears.

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Swingman

watson - who is kinda interested in seeing how far the responses to this will kick out to the right before he runs out of screen...

I first saw Duck live playing with Leon Russell in about the mid seventies, on a non-venue near to Philly (don't know why they were there - there was no gig on) but heard him from the time of Booker T, Otis, Wilson, Issac - you remember Ronnie Hawkins? - the Hawk that started out the Band?

I don't think there was anybody the sumbitch didn't play with during the seventies and he played with Petty, Clapton and even Buffet during the eighties.

shazzam - somebody else like bass folks - betcha don't like drummers, though.

watson - who likes drummers, too - but not too many keyboard guys and only two vibraphone dudes.

watson - who only likes one harp player and he's really a lyricist.

it ain't mayall.

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A great band, even after the Canadian's basically ran Hawkin's out, it still had the southern 'thang'.

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Swingman

I'm trying to remember who did the bass line on "All She Wants To Do Is Dance".

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Tom Watson

That's because Marks owns all of his own tools, many of which he purchased used. He did a show on all of his tools and he explained where they all came from and admitted that his aircraft carrier jointer is a little ridiculous but he got a good deal.

While I don't have that jointer nor the multi-router, nor some of the other things that he does, I haven't been at it as long as he has, nor am I a woodworking professional in galleries all over the world. However, his shop is a lot closer to mine and I've thought about using some of the nifty ideas I've seen in his shop if I ever get time.

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Brian Henderson

Speaking of drummers, did Donald "Duck" Dunn ever play with Donald "Duck" Bailey?

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Mark and Kim Smith

All these big bass playin' names... and no mention of amongst my 2 faves Dave Jaques and Pino Palladino.

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Robatoy

There were a lot of bass players listed on the album credts, but I don't recall exacly who played what. Larry Klein, Pino Palladino and Tim Drummond for sure, and a girl bass player, IIRC ... but if I had to guess I'd say Pino?

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Swingman

Uh, instead of Jorma, did you perchance mean Jack Casady? He was the Airplane's bassist.

Dave, who is also a bass player, and owns a Chubby Jackson model Kay... oheare AT magma DOT ca

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Dave O'Heare

(Speaking of DJM...)

Ah, yes. The wood. To me, that is the biggest difference between Marks and Nahm. Like me, Marks loves and respects the wood. He listens to it and works with it to reveal the sometimes hidden beauty, while Nahm just machines it.

DJM is glue and lots of clamps; Nahm is "just a couple of brads until the glue dries".

DJM is tung oil; Nahm is polyurethane, or -*shudder*- paint.

I record and watch Nahm on my DVR, but I delete every episode as soon as it's over. But my 70 hour DVR is about half full of Wood Works, and I've got to find a way to dump some out to DVD, instead of VHS tapes.

In the end, it boils down to this for me: DJM is an artist, as I aspire to be. Nahm builds furniture as if he's framing a house: sturdy, fine workmanship, but no soul at all.

Kevin

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Kevin Craig

I am sure that is who he meant. To hell with the Airplane ... give me Hot Tuna!

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Swingman

Marks also has two one-way lathes...

The difference between the shows is that if you watch Norm he is really good on working out the exact right sequence to build something with minimal hassle.

Marks does not have as many specialist power tools as Norm but be does have a heck of a lot of specialist hand tools and he uses some very expensive woods. If Marks is using a hand plane it will either be one he hand made himself or something that cost twice as much as the bench top mortiser that Norm uses.

Marks is much more interested in artsy finishing, Norm does maybe a couple of projects a season with something other than eight coats of poly.

Interestingly, Norm has really jacked up the difficulty level this season and last. The mahoghany dinning table he built last season must have cost at least $2K for the wood alone. I would have thought that for a table that size veneer would be a better way to go.

Neither of them uses a spliter or guard on their table saw. Marks was seen using his rip fence as a cutoff guide while cross cutting with a mitre guage this morning - Norm always uses a short cuttoff fence.

I don't think that the 'guards removed for visibility' is legit. It would be pretty easy to mount a modern lightweight CCD camera on a blade guard. If Norm used a splitter &ct then the number of shop injuries in the US would probably fall markedly. Friend of mine is now limited to only using hand tools after he cut half his hand off. He was lucky and he got it sewn back on and even got feeling back but his hand now looks like a piece of wood that has been ripped in two and butt joined together, you can see the jump in the creases of his palm due to the saw kerf

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Phillip Hallam-Baker

Especially since Marks work is in several museums.

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Leon

Yeah, sorry - type too fast, think too slow.

Besides, when I think of Jack, I confuse it with Neal.

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