Just get a mobile base for it and you'll have no trouble at all moving it
around. I don't know much about Craftsman table saws, but I do know that at
least one model comes with a custom mobile base that appears to be a good one.
\> I stopped by sears to take a look at it and it looks like a fairly
I'd go with the full size contractor saw...you won't be sorry. I have
the same saw, except I got the one with the router wing and mobile
base, and I am quite happy with it. Once I trued everything up right,
it cuts perfectly square, and it's still true almost a year later.
It's real easy to move around the garage on the mobile base too. I did
have to do a little filing where the two-piece rail fits together, but
the fence isn't bad. Once set, it locks down square every time, and is
much better than you'd get on a benchtop saw. The router table works
great also (although it's drilled for only Craftsman or Ryobi
routers), and it will save you that much more shop space. I think the
router wing model would serve you better...even if you don't use the
router table, you get the cast iron wing plus the mobile base for
nearly the same price. I got mine for $449 (Craftsman Club days), and
it went on sale a couple months later for $399. The manager went ahead
and credited me the $50, which was pretty nice of them.
I miss that show so much. I saw Jill the other day on Law and Order,
covering for her murdering teenage daughter or something. Tim is of course
busy playing Santa Claus.
I'm making due with a "$200" saw that I got for $50. Whatever the OP is
looking at, I'll bet it's something I'd love to have myself.
One thing about starting with a crappy saw, it teaches you to appreciate a
good one when you get it. It's hard to get much crappier than a Skil 3400.
You can do it, but you have to get a saw at Big Lots or something.
Whether or not I would consider the OP's saw in question a "crappy" one I
can't say. I know everybody hates Crapsman, and I sure hate my Crapsman
POS 2000 router. Buying a Crapsman as my trade-up saw would probably be a
It's not off the table though. I might get a Crapsman. One thing about
Sears, they're *there*. Most of this other stuff is mail order or drive to
Big City USA. Lowe's stocks three table saws. HD has the BT3100 and the
Skil 3400; maybe a Makita or Hitachi benchtop. Reed's has a few benchtops
from Delta and Makita and such. Nobody stocks JET, nobody carries a full
line of Delta... Motor freight isn't cheap, and it's an added PITA. I
like to just buy the damn thing and take it home.
I looked at Delta and I looked at Crapsman when I had $300 to spend on a DP.
I got the Crapsman.
I got the Crapsman when I needed a drill too.
I guess 1/3 of my power tools are from there, and I use them all the time.
No, I'm not above buying Crapsman again. I won't buy another one of these
horrible routers though.
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note that the aluminum front rail is joined from two pieces. I have no
idea why they did that, but it's a pain. a buddy of mine has that saw
and I found the discontinuity aggravating. other than that it runs OK,
has adequate power for what it is and seems to adjust easily. I
haven't gotten into the works of it to be able to tell you if or how
easily it can be tuned up, nor have I tried to do any precise or heavy
work with it.
On 30 Dec 2003 07:28:10 -0800, email@example.com (Chad Cunningham)
If you have some time, you can probably get something better second hand.
TS rarely wear out. I've seen nice Deltas for $150. I have two Craftsmen
that are about 25 years old! They work very well, but the fences are not so
The saw is fine, and a decent buy for $400. However...
1) You can get a slightly used saw that is just as good for $200. Moving it
is a real pain, but you avoid the pain of assembling it!
2) I would not recommend a saw with less then a 27" deep table, but if you
are truly going to just do light stuff, they make serviceable 20" deep saws
for rather less money.
firstname.lastname@example.org (Chad Cunningham) wrote:
My only recommmendation is to find $59 more and buy the version with the
cast iron router wing and fence. I have that saw and I'm happy with it
It didn't run true and is a ROYAL pain in the ass to adjust if the blade
isn't square to the mitre slots.
It really isn't powerful enough to do long rips on 8/4 hardwood, even with
a Forrest WWII blade.
The fence is nice but, as one guy mentioned, the fact that the rail is in
two pieces makes is a pain in the ass. I had to fiddle and fuss with mine,
including filing on it to get the fence to slide over the joint smoothly.
I assembled one of them for a friend and it wasn't all that bad. He
loves it. Personally I like my old Rockwell better. Go buy that
baby it's going to be the best TS you have ever owned.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:42:17 GMT, "David Babcock"
When I was TS shopping, I also had about a $400 limit. And I came very close
to getting that one. But, this one
pid 924830000&bidsite=null) was on sale for the exact same price (now $60
more). It's the exact same saw plus an accessory kit.
But that $60 gets you alot of extras:
- mobile base (alone worth the extra dough)
- dust collection cover (plate on bottom with 4" hole)
- router mounting kit (kind a sucky tho)
- micro-adjusting feature on the fence (nice)
The mobile base is worth the $60. That suckers gonna be a PITA to move
without one. If you're like me (working in your garage), it is a necessity.
Making one will prolly cost $60 for the casters and materials or a new
ready-made one will cost more.
As for the rest of the items, well, after the mobile base they are basically
If this saw (with the accessories) is out, the saw that you are looking at
does have the mountings for the micro-adjuster, you could probably get it
separately from Sears Parts and install it yourself.
Actually, in the end, I got a used Craftsman contractor saw (2HP [15A/110V
or 7.5A/220V], cast iron top and wings, Jet Xacta fence, mobile base, dust
collection plate, link belt with machined pulleys, Freud combo blade, and
more for about $325). Then I used the extra $75 towards a Incra V27 with the
[sorry for the drive-by gloat, but with a little time you can get a great
deal on a used]
Anyhoo, just throwing that out there. Don't you hate it when you say you
have a budget and someone knucklehead tells you to spend more anyway?
I have a Delta Contr. saw-that I made a mobile base for
'cause it's a heavy sucker! I work outside (when I can)
here in Montana and need to move it over rough surfaces
(dirt and gravel) to use it. I made a frame across the
bottom of the sheet metal stand it's on, mounted 8"
lawnmower wheels on the frame so that they're approx. 1/8"
off the ground. Simply tilt the saw forward a bit and
drive it like a wheelbarrow. It sits outside (tarped, of course)
as we speak with about 8" of snow on the tabletop. Seems the
garage is too full of other crap to take it inside...hmmm....
maybe I make some room in there come Spring. Sure am
glad I made up that ultra-durable hard wax last summer--
everything on the saw that's metal is coated with it.
Decent is a relative thing Chad. With a direct comparison to my Jet Cabinet
saw probably not, with a direct comparison to a lot of the bench top saws,
probably much more so.
The question is will it do the basic job you want done in, at least, a
workman like manner and fit into the budget. The obvious answer is yes it
will as long as you understand and compensate for it's limitations. You
aren't going to be able to feed stock through the way I do with a three
horse power motor saw and you may have to check your alignments a bit more
often but we all have to start somewhere and if the saw will spin the blade
somewhere over 3K rpm it will do the basic job of cutting wood. .
email@example.com (Chad Cunningham) wrote in message
I used that saw last week at a friend's house. It's just fine. You
will be able to do a lot of nice work on it.
Don't buy a benchtop saw. I used a Delta benchtop saw for a few years
and it was totally frustrating. I now have a Jet contractor's saw and
don't find it to be any more accurate than my friend's Craftsman.
Go for it.
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