SWMBO and I had a really good but way too expensive (IMO) breakfast at a
restaurant in Amherst, MA. I'm more of greasy spoon diner breakfast kind of
guy but this place was suggested by the owner of the Airbnb we were staying
at, so we tried it. Anyway, they had some cool wooden and metal benches. I
didn't get a chance to sit on one, so I can't speak to the comfort. The seats
seem like they would be fine, but the backs look like they wouldn't be
comfortable for all customers. Have a look...
On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:18:42 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
comfortable for all customers. Have a look...
Cool. I can't complain about beam seats. I've made a few with beam "cut
offs" from a remodel job.... no backrest, so they weren't very comfortable
for long term seating.
My first thought was the beam (seat) is a 12X12, 5" off the floor, making t
he seating 17" high. Usually, dining seats are 19" off the floor. But t
he view of the guy, sitting on the opposite-side seat, seems a comfortable
height. The beam may be larger than 12X12. I once heard uncomfortable
seating "disallows" a patron to linger, longer, i.e., not making space for
another paying customer. A shorter seating allows for seating children, th
ough, so a happy median of seating height is logical.
So, no chance to carve your initials in one. No underside, to stick your
used-up gum, either.
Of all of the things I do not build, anything you sit on. Seating is
just too touchy to get right. It can look great and might be something
you would not want your worst enemy to sit in.
These benches are cool but "many" restaurants have uncomfortable chairs
for a reason, they don't want you staying too long after you have eaten.
These might fit the bill just right.
I understand this is the same reason they tend to make restaurants
loud with garish lighting. These customer unfriendly tactics make for
grumpy customers if the kitchen is slow. Grumpy customers make for
grumpy (underpaid) staff.
On 9/4/2018 9:05 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I think it's the same reason, but the reason is more likely due to the
owners being morons. I guess if your restaurant is in a tourist trap
where repeat business is close to zero, it might work, otherwise, if you
want repeat customers, besides good food, you need pleasant surroundings
including comfortable seating and non-loud, non-garish lighting.
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
One would think, but, it has been my experience, the less than desirable
seating conditions and loud environments are not at a loss of customers.
When the customers are standing in line to get in the crewel seating
and things you mentioned have no effect on business. In fact there is a
certain restaurant that is no pleasure to go to but is busy enough,
lines out the doors, that they close one day a week. Almost no
restaurants in Houston close for any day of the week. And while Houston
is a tourist town, the restaurants are located and buried in
neighborhoods no where near an attraction or hotel. In Houston if the
food is good and the service is decent nothing else matters.
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:55:56 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
Getting a little off Derby's subject, some comments about seating:
I've built quite a few seats and, yes, it's somewhat hard to make a nice co
mfortable seat that suits everyone. I suspect this is one problem with co
mfortable seating, that, one design can't satisfy all sitters. For some ti
me, now, I've built to satisfy my personal comfort and that seems to be the
best approach for achieving more of others' comfort, as well.
In many of my seat-building cases, it hasn't been the comfort aspect that h
as been my most pressing problem, but getting the correct jointery and mati
ng of the joints, for the overall surety of the structure, especially with
rocking chairs, where the forces, on the structure, vary, as one rocks.
As to rocking chairs, one leg longer and/or the angle (front to back) of ea
ch the rockers, themselves, needs to be the same exact angle, otherwise the
rocker will creep sideways, across the floor, as one rocks.
That was my though.
Most of the Mexican restaurants around here have benches with the seat
made of flat plywood with no padding and the back "rest" the same
material at 90 degrees from the seat. Talk about uncomfortable.
Those types of businesses are based om quantity, not quality.
Get em in and out in a hurry.
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:19:43 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
I hate waiting at restaurants. I too have walked out, usually letting
someone who works there know why.
I also tend to ask for the check "early". Sometimes at the "How is everythi
visit when I know we won't be having desert, otherwise I'll ask them to bri
the check at the time we order dessert. I'm polite, usually saying somethin
like "We have plans for right after dinner. Would you mind getting the chec
ready when you have a chance? Thanks!"
As much as I hate waiting to order my food, I hate even more having to wait
for the check after I'm done eating.
Aside from some tourist traps, you'd not enjoy eating out in Italy.
Nothing is rushed and many restaurants do not open until 7 PM. The
check will not come until you are finished your last drop of espresso.
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:21:23 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
I don't know about "probably". SWMBO and I just spent 2 weeks on a road
trip through Utah and Arizona. Basically a big loop around the Grand Canyon
While our time was not "cramped", sitting in a restaurant was not a how we
wanted to spend the time that we had. Bryce, Zion, Lake Powell and the
Colorado River were the priorities.
Lot's of PB&J sandwiches on the trail. ;-)
Yup! I do the same in the grocery store. I don't tolerate waiting to
PAY. I once wasked away from a full basket because the register lines
had 5~7 people in each, with full baskets. Only 4 of the 10-12 registers
were open and there were 3 or 4 supervisors standing around just
watching. I think they watched me walk out of the store empty handed.
:~) Too many chiefs and not enough indians.
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